Just like me, I suppose you are taking my posts wrong, I dont think I came off as saying anybody is wrong, If I did correct me, I was merely debating that SEAGATE drives in general are not doomed to fail due to your experiences no matter how long those may be because the data is limited, when I posted "I like to read", I wanted to show a point of view other than my own, it in no way supports my claim that SEAGATES are a better drive, just shows an option on how to view HDD reliability, and just because I posted "I like to read" does not mean my experience is limited as such, that again is a false conclusion to make about me, I am 23 and I have been dealing with electronics since I was about 7 in one way or another, I do take others experience into account otherwise why would I post questions about problems, If I thought my attitude is "I'm right so everyone else is wrong"?
Also I said "I must be choosing the right model then, and I take care of my pc" that right there is a neutral post, I didnt say they generally do or do not fail, it just states I have been lucky in my experiences, all harddrives are doomed to fail, so your statement is a given, so then you would have to say SEAGATES are doomed to fail faster than other HDD's, so I am saying if you take better care of a HDD it will last longer.
I think the reason this debate is lasting longer then it should is because for me atleast I'm seeing your posts as absolute saying "Seagates are doomed to fail or not doomed is an absolute statement" if you or me say they will fail faster than other HDD's then I dont think we would be where we are now, also me saying that experience does make something true is just that no matter what experience someone has it cannot change the outcome if something is a fact or not, I should of stated that it does however mean that your statements are more likely to be correct than those with lesser experience, again I said that because you used terms that meant absolute, I did the same as well and I will correct myself.
I enjoy debating very much, im not a yes man martin, your not either, so I am trying to approach this at a neutral standpoint I will fail at that sometimes, however my posts may come across. I am not trying to offend someone outright, I love banter and trash talk, I have been made aware that trash talk is taken seriously here, so I try to tone it down, I am very open to diff point of views and opinions, you can say I get upset when someone, not just you, everybody, online or not, says something along the lines of "this is the way it is and always will be".
I am not taking the bitch way out and saying that I appreciate yours and others posts, I truly do, even if I think someone might be wrong, it gives me more info to draw a conclusion from.
Oh yeah very good post lothar, you dont have to have to worry about adding to a debate or post no matter how old or long it is, or even if the problem has been solved, just like you said the longer an experiment goes on the less of a chance it is random or inconclusive, the more input the better I say.
I'm tired and losing my train of thought, so I'll wrap this up for tonight.