Seagate Chosen as 360 Harddrive Provider

[Martin C]

I'm going to try and re-word what I said:

Some HDD manufactures are known (from experience) to have a higher failure rate than others. I didn't even suggest that ALL Seagates were doomed to fail - not even close.

What I *am* saying is that MTBF is an ambiguous factor in hardware. If your equipment has a MTBF of 10,000 hours and yours has lasted considerably longer, then statistically it means that someone, somewhere will have theirs fail in LESS time than the MTBF. It's an average figure, not gospel!

So you buy a harddrive, not knowing exactly how long it'll last. It could last you ten years. It could last you ten days. If the odds are stacked against you and it's a 10-day harddrive then nothing you do will make it last significantly longer. This is what I mean by "doomed to fail".

I hope this clarifies things.

Martin

 

[Ganksta187]

I totally feel you on that one. WD is the best, what branch of the Military? Marine here...

 

[AZAZ3L]

If someone was to say the stock seagates in the xbox had a high failure rate, the only thing I can say is the ones I have dealt with including my own stock seagate have done well, I cant say whether there statement is true or not because I dont have enough data, so if you said that, we probly would not be debating over the fact, but since you clarified that not all seagates are doomed to fail, the debates over, and I agree with you on the MTBF it does not mean much, when I choose a HDD, I narrow the field down by these factors, what will I use it for, then I compare specs from similar HDD's, I check price ofcourse, read reviews from almost everywhere I can find, look at the warranty length, and finally I draw from my past experiences, im not a loyal customer at all, i'll buy the best product for the situation.

I hope the xbox 360 HDD will be a good one, but just because some of the ones in the xbox had problems doesnt mean the future ones will, I guess thats all im trying to say, and thats how this got started someone said "I guess we can look forward to replacing our hard drives every 3 or so years ", and obviously I had a different opinion.

peace

 

[Martin C]

I think certain models were plagued with failures and hope as you do, that these are now in the past

Martin

 

[g$$$]

All Right guys, I bought a 300gb WD today based on your arguments. I took the 160gb Seagate out and put it as a slave in my pc. Sooo... I'm still damned. Since I became a Hara Krishna the other day, I feel some solace. Much better than the Moonie I was a week ago. Oh yeah catalyst, I bought a router finally also,(Linksys, a mans router with sack) damn easy work. Now I can f**k with the modded xbox while the kids are playing xbox live on the port right next to it. Kinda Ironic and a thumb your d**k at Money $oft i think!! Though I am drunk again!! But you'll have that on vacation.

 

[TechBlaze]

Does seagate own WD? Or did they just decide/realize that seagate drives suck, and switched to WD ones?

 

[buttface96]

I hate to say it, but every drive ive had problems with had been Seagate. I had the following:

x1 40GB Seagate HD make loud noises permanetly

x1 120GB HD Seagate totaly f**ked up (full of permanet errors, timedout everything, useless)

And currently I have a 120GB Seagate in my xbox that is now starting to randomly restart its self. I dunno why I still stay with seagate while every WD drive ive owned i had absolutly no problems with. Prolly cuz seagate is cheaper

 

[Sidphoenix]

I have a 120 Seagate and it works perfectly in my xbox. Maybe yours is overheating. Also from what ive seen, WD is cheaper.

 

[iznasty]

I hate to say it, but every drive ive had problems with had been Seagate. I had the following:

x1 40GB Seagate HD make loud noises permanetly

x1 120GB HD Seagate totaly f**ked up (full of permanet errors, timedout everything, useless)

And currently I have a 120GB Seagate in my xbox that is now starting to randomly restart its self. I dunno why I still stay with seagate while every WD drive ive owned i had absolutly no problems with. Prolly cuz seagate is cheaper

damn, u have some bad luck, i've had a great experiance with seagate, can't say the same about WD though

 

[Peroxide]

I have my Western Digital 40gb from probably '01 and I have my 20gb Fujitsu from even further back.

Have never had a problem with either

 

[quitecoolguy]

just to add to the post..does anyone have a idea on the size of the drive that Ms is considering to put in the 360...I know that ms is gearing to have the 360 as a driving point for your entertainment center..i hope that they truly factor in the idea that the 360 wll get used for what it is desigend to be...we all know that storeing games and movies on our modded box is the best thing since we had to stop having to hold the break & reset button on the TRS80..ha ha justa little hint as to how long i have been plinking around on pc's, actually fist pc was aTI 994a , but I can see Ms putting a small drive like they did in the current box. Moveis and games take up some space. I hope they are not going with the idea of lets put enough storage space to get by. Hell i would love to see two drives in it..one set up for media (movies etc) and the other for games. nowing m$ they will only allow you to copy games designed for the first xbox to the hdd of the 360

 

[Martin C]

I have my Western Digital 40gb from probably '01 and I have my 20gb Fujitsu from even further back.

Have never had a problem with either

Just to reinterate - noone said that every WD or Seagate drive will fail. It's all about percentages.

Martin

 

[Peroxide]

Just to reinterate - noone said that every WD or Seagate drive will fail. It's all about percentages.

Martin

I know, I'm just saying, out of the 100s you guys wasted money on, I got a good one.

 

[Gorthaur]

Dont really know seagate...but WD really REALLY SUCKS !!!

Maxtor are the best with samsung

 

[thejas]

seagate all the way

I work in IT as well and I feel your guys pain about the Seagates.


I just had my Western Digital 120g USB HDD crash on Saturday...

It had all my game back-ups and my music, movies and family video's on it!

I think it is the USB device though... I hear that you can crack it open and run the HDD because it's just an IDE in there... I've haven't tired yet though...

You can daisy chain USB Drives so I'll try that first.

But I was shocked when it broke! Western Digital are the best IMO... the most expensive usually but the most reliable too!

Martin, you had to smash the old drives? I had to do that when I first joined the military!

It can be a pretty good time. We had a huge sledge hamemr and the trick was to lay it on it's side and hit it hard enough to crack it into two pieces! If you did it right you could make the disks fly out!

i have dealt with many many computers as i repair them quite often. i have always seen probglems in wd. maxtor is ok and seagates have been the best. y do u think they are the only ones with a 5 year warranty even on oem drives? think about it people?

 

[quitecoolguy]

no takers on the size of the hdd drive in the 360 and hmmm wonder how hard it will be to modd the new box when it gets here

 

[Sidphoenix]

Google says: 20GB

Search before you post man.

 

[quitecoolguy]

hmmmm..never took google for the best source of info for the box...hince asking in the forum specificaly for the box......man

 

[mitpat]

I guess we can look forward to replacing our hard drives every 3 or so years

i gave mine about five minutes after getting my X3

 

[Hellsredeemr]

The Hard drive in the 360 is a 20GB Seagate, Removable and replaceable. You can't copy games or movies on to it, you can stream movies from your computer and so on but thats it, it manly is for game saves/online content and music. You can take out the hard drive and still play games but you can't save unless you have a memory card.

I like Maxter, Sturdy little drives. and why don't you just say you like this or that drive? instead of going into why you think its the best or why not
Example:

I like Fujis, they work for me.

Thats all you have to say.