simple questions

[vwaddict]

since the same banter goes on and on i never really get what i ask answered, well here are some questions. I have been working for 5 days on my install on a v1.1. I desoldered, used pin header, didnt work, thought it was my soldering, probably was, got frustrated, then messed up a trace, fixed the trace, did a wire install, somehow my trace is messed up and i think i finally got the chip powering up solid. ok......

1. with the wire install, some joker stated to use the alternate 5v wire, and yes i know that applies to the 1.6 but he stated this under an explanation of how to do a wire install on all versions. so, thinking twice, i looked at the leds they were both on without the wire, odd, i thought that the 5v light only goes on if it HAS 5V!! so i plugged in the wire anyway and noticed that stupid puff of smoke, abd without hesitation ripped that damn wire out, my eject button works and all so i dont think i messed anything up, (did I?). heres where i stand.

Im under the impression that the chip can boot alone without ms dash, can it?

if so will it boot off a broken trace when soldered to a d0 point the top or bottom?

im not seeing anythin on my screen, the only think i can do is get the disc tray to open when i hold eject during a frag, oh yes, all it does is cycle red and green, and all the lights are on the chip, green , blue blue. soooo what now? how do you solder that friggin small do point if the trace is not able to accept solder on the bottom, ( i used that circut pen for the repair)
why didnt they also put a light to indicate a good d0 connection, they put on on that stupid solderless install

 

[ThaCrip]

well assuming u did not ruin anything... there is NO reason to use alt5v wire on a 1.1 xbox!!! that guy is dumb who told u that.

once u solder the chip in properly (IN YOUR CASE USE THE "ALT D0" POINT) as it's easier to solder.

yes the chip will boot up by itself... but u gotta flasha bios to it for it to be able to play games from the hard drive etc... but basically... once the chip is installed correctly and u turn it on u SHOULD see a blue looking flashbios screen... if u see this ur in good shape if not... it's most likely a soldering issue.

here is the picture where u need to solder your "ALT D0" point ... http://www.teamxecuter.com/x3/tutorials/pinheader/v10v15/x3_bottom.jpg

if ur SURE u got the soldering correct and still nothing happeneds odds are something got screwed up.

DONT USE ANYTHING HIGHER THAN A 15WATT SOLDERING IRON! (15 watt is perfect)... BE CAREFULL when u solder it to ... i used a .032 solder on mine but the small 0.022 will probably be even better.

just use this tutorial and u should be good assuming u did not damage anything in your xbox... http://www.teamxecuter.com/x3/tutorials/x3pin1015.htm

 

[vwaddict]

on soldering the wire install, does the wire need to be soldered to both the top and bottom of the board? or as long as its soldered good on one side it should work?

 

[ThaCrip]

well it's recommened to use the PIN HEADER install if u got a 1.1 or newer xbox as there is no "pre-filed" solder in the holes like a 1.0 xbox is (mine is a 1.0 xbox so i used the wires install on my chip)


but if u insist on doing a wires install all u have to do is solder in the wires where they belong and use the ALT D0 point (since u use ALT D0 point u DONT need to use the primary D0 point (which is on top of mobo) since it's much harder to solder as it's smaller) .... alt D0 point is on bottom of mobo and main D0 point is on top surface of mobo.

but in my wires install i did... i poked the wires into the holes just enough for the wires to connect and filed the solder up in the holes (holes meaning the holes on the LPC port)

like i say if u aint sure what to do read the tutorials or my recommendation is to get someone else to do it for u ... a person who u KNOW can do it.

just trying to help u the best i can ... if u dont know exactly what to do .. DONT DO IT ... best way to avoid anything getting physically messed up

 

[ThaCrip]

also, i forgot to mention this although u might already know this but... make SURE your audio video cable is connected to the back of the xbox otherwise your xbox WILL frag when turned on!

frag (meaning the red and green flashing lights)

good luck

 

[ThaCrip]

also after reading your first post again.. u said the eject button turns on the xbox but the power button dont?... well if thats the case u have no way to access your X3 chips backup bios... also i "think" u might not be able to controll the enableing/disableing of the x3 mod chip either since ... normally u have to quick press the power button to enable the chip and a slightly longer press of the power button disables the x3 mod chip. and the pressing of power+eject at same time allows u to boot up to the x3's built in backup bios.

so basically i would not be suprized if ur xbox is screwed up.

good luck is about all i can tell u

 

[vwaddict]

no, both buttons work turning it on. now does the mother board need to be screwed down for grounding purposes. Ive tried that stupid wire thing that i keep seeing, its not working.

how do i know if the mod is disabled, and what would be causeing it not to disable? my thought is, that if both buttons function in turning on and off the box, and the eject button works, it has nothing to do with them and is a wire issue.

I have the av plugged in, the power plugged in, and all the cables. But i dont screw in the board because it takes forever to unscrew, should i screw it down? now im not a wizard, but from pics ive seen online abut solder jobs, i think mine is alot better done so im pretty confident in my abilities. do you need to sand with a fibreglasss pen on the d0 point to make a good contact? i get solder to stick so my guess is im making contact? with the wire install, it has fewer pins than the pin install? am i forgetting something, why do they have less pins (wires) to solder? thanks guys

 

[vwaddict]

another thing, i checked via xecuters web on which version, its def a 1.1 but it did have solder, just for information