RGH Slim Red light - Error Code: 0032

[Loomingx]

I successfully RGH'ed a Trinity yesterday that just needed a STBY-CLK repair and it would boot in about 15 seconds. Once I put it back in the chassis and started reassembling I tried booting again just to confirm all was work. I got an instant red light so I checked the points and got it to boot again. 5 minutes later it was back to the red light. I knew it had to be my soldering and after a lot of screwing around I got frustrated and my solder iron become more of a weapon than a means of getting the Slim to work. :rolleyes2:

I desoldered all the points and flashed back the original NAND to get a red light with a 0032 error code with the fan still running.

I looked around the forum and found a CPU-RST that I thought would help me. In my frustrated state I managed to rip the alt point which you'll see in the picture.

I've given up on wanting to RGH this console I just want to get it working stock again.

Prepare yourselves...

Think think this is repairable?

 

[zackf89]

1. your stndby_clk is messed up, you need to wire WITH the resistor in series not out of circuit.
2. You need to trace the trace from c5r11 to the via that is under the CPU, try to wire to the trace first and then your last ditch effort is to solder to the via under the CPU. if you mess that point up your console is PERMANENTLY bricked

 

[Loomingx]

I will rewire my STBY_CLK.

Can I make a jumper cable soldered to the trace on each side of the c5r11 to fix it?

Also, do I need to go about fixing my CPU_RST or Post_Out? I was getting 0032 before I attemped the alt point for the CPU_RST and lifted the c5r11.

 

[sp4rkst4rt3r]

You are very close to Killing that console.....period

Going off the damage done already you should seriously consider sending the MB to Pro. I'm not having a dig at you but if it was me that has got it in this state then I would refrain from going any further.

Looking at the soldering (I say that reservedly) it looks like you haven't used any flux at all.

 

[Loomingx]

I cleaned off the flux desperately thinking that'd fix my red light issues before I lifted the C5R11. I've done a dozen RGH's on Slims this is just more of a product of frustration getting the best of me. I've done trace repairs before I'd just like a clear explanation on how about doing it for the CPU_RST.

edit:

My STBY_CLK is fine. The console is booting and I'm able to read and write nand.

I just finished soldering a wire onto the trace right before the lifted C5R11 and soldered the other end to the R4D4 and it's now working!

Maybe all I needed was a night of sleep and some disbelief.

 

[conie]

Holy sh*t, give up man.

 

[Loomingx]

I just got it working... thanks for the really helpful information though.

I've seen far too much of this give up/send it to a pro sh*t. I was under the impression that this is a support forum. I know a lot of people try to go beyond their capabilities (myself included) but how else are you going to learn? You make mistakes, you try your best to correct them and if all else fails you give up or send it to someone with more experience. I've done trace repairs on lifted pads from GPU's, this is easy in comparison. All I wanted to know is how to properly fix my CPU_RST point which I ended up doing myself anyways.

 

[sp4rkst4rt3r]

After seeing the pictures of the soldering and not knowing the level of your ability I suggested sending it to a Pro to save you money.
I'm pleased for you that you got it working. Good job and go easy on them solder points in future they are very delicate

 

[Martin C]

I just got it working... thanks for the really helpful information though.

I've seen far too much of this give up/send it to a pro sh*t. I was under the impression that this is a support forum. I know a lot of people try to go beyond their capabilities (myself included) but how else are you going to learn? You make mistakes, you try your best to correct them and if all else fails you give up or send it to someone with more experience. I've done trace repairs on lifted pads from GPU's, this is easy in comparison. All I wanted to know is how to properly fix my CPU_RST point which I ended up doing myself anyways.

Yes, it is a support forum. For T-X products.

Last time I checked, the ability to solder was not a T-X product.

You asked for help and you got it. I would have given the same advice as others. Soldering issues are best handled by those who can do it. Not happy and want to learn? Go learn - pay someone to teach you or learn off your own back.

To complain about the level of support you get from a site which doesn't officially support your problem is just stupid.

I taught myself everything I know about soldering and trace repairs and have never made a single post anywhere. If I can do it, you can too. Be prepared to put in weeks/months of practice.

Looking at your level of soldering, you shouldn't even be working on consoles right now. Improve before you go any further.

 

[Loomingx]

I understand the ability to solder is not a TX product but it's an issue that's closely connected to products like NAND-X and Coolrunner and gets a lot of support none the less. I've done plenty of RGH's, trace repairs and reballs. I know how to solder. I know that the points look horrible but like I said this was after hours of tinkering and becoming very frustrated. I've sent boards to pros before when I knew it was beyond my capabilities but I don't think asking for help with an alt point/trace repair is expecting a lot.

Even though I fudged it up in the first place I must have a semblance of soldering abilities if I was able to get it back up and running.

 

[Martin C]

I don't consider your STBY_CLK fix to be anywhere near a reasonable solder job. For one, you've actually soldered the wire to the WRONG side of the resistor - if you know what you're doing, it's impossible to get this wrong.

I call it blind luck you've managed to avoid any major mishaps if this is the quality of work.

As for support, go buy a car. When you need driving lessons, do you go back to the garage for them to help you? It's closely related, yes? I know - how about you drive around, banging into things while you teach yourself? go raid a few motoring websites and ask for help on manoeuvring the car around corners, or parking. Do you think people are going to help you with pics etc on what to do? No, you don't. You do what most sensible people do and that's pay someone to teach you. Ironically, there's much more chance of harming yourself when playing with electronics than with driving a car and yet most people choose to do the former without any training whatsoever!

 

[trippy86]

I don't consider your STBY_CLK fix to be anywhere near a reasonable solder job. For one, you've actually soldered the wire to the WRONG side of the resistor - if you know what you're doing, it's impossible to get this wrong.

I call it blind luck you've managed to avoid any major mishaps if this is the quality of work.

As for support, go buy a car. When you need driving lessons, do you go back to the garage for them to help you? It's closely related, yes? I know - how about you drive around, banging into things while you teach yourself? go raid a few motoring websites and ask for help on manoeuvring the car around corners, or parking. Do you think people are going to help you with pics etc on what to do? No, you don't. You do what most sensible people do and that's pay someone to teach you. Ironically, there's much more chance of harming yourself when playing with electronics than with driving a car and yet most people choose to do the former without any training whatsoever!

not being funny Loomingx but martin is right, looking at the soldering i would buy some bricked boards and practice, like martin thats how i taught myself when i started modding consoles at 14 years old.

if i were you i would just take on board what martin has said accepted it, no point arguing with one of the most able people on this forum, YOU WILL LOOSE

 

[Coleman]

If you need boards to practice on I have 5

 

[Loomingx]

I have no illusions that I'm even close to as experienced as Martin. I have done several STBY_CLK repairs and for some reason when I did the standard trace fix the console wouldn't boot. It was indeed dumb luck that It worked on the other side but I wasn't getting a boot with the traditional set up. I have cleaned up the trace since then and it is much cleaner.

Like I've said a few times already, this was hours of tinkering which lead to frustration and an overall sloppy job. You can't tell me you haven't had that machine you've lost your sh*t on and made mistakes you otherwise wouldn't have made. I've done enough RGH's, trace repairs, SMD swaps, reballs, etc. to feel comfortable with my soldering abilities. This is where I disagree with Martin. It was not luck as this is not my usual quality of work.

I knew my soldering was messy, I even gave a precursor in my first post to excuse the bad soldering due to frustration and not actual abilities.

But I do agree with your overall point Martin. I should not expect free support. I've recently been trying to help some members with their product/soldering issues and I was hoping I could get some help on my particular issue. I just feel that my request was quickly dismissed and there was unneeded hostility. I won't expect anything anymore.

If you need boards to practice on I have 5

Thanks for the offer. Contrary to popular belief I have about 20 scrap boards that I've used for learning purposes and now I just keep them for parts.

 

[Martin C]

But you *were* helped! This is my point. The advice to 'get someone to do it' is good advice, seeing as you felt you needed help on it. A knowledge of basic electronics is what you're seriously lacking. No way you'd solder something out of circuit if you knew what you were doing. Close inspection of the damaged areas will determine what needs to be repaired. It's basically join the dots. The fact you needed to start a thread on 'how do I join the dots' speaks volumes.

 

[Loomingx]

Fair enough. Everything I know I've taught myself. I'm taking a course in September as well as getting my A+ certification in the next 2 months. I'm also now working full time at an electronics repair shop so I will also gain a lot more experience their.

I wouldn't normally solder the wire out of circuit but I wasn't able to get the console booting through the traditional method and it's working just fine now. I knew how to do the CPU_RST alt point repair but after I lifted the C5R11 pad I just wanted to confirm that soldering to the trace just before it would work.

Anyway, this isn't going anywhere. You've made valid points and my console is now working. Thanks for everyone's input.