Sony Playstation 3

[linuxn00b2004]

Hey y'all,

I know I'm going to receive some pretty heavy flak for this, but I just have to share!

The Sony Playstation 3 looks amazing! Both appearance-wise and spec-wise. It's so pretty! I'm digging the slot-load DVD and clean lines. Even if I were not biased strongly against Microsoft, then I would still, at the very least, think it looks nicer.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/16/news_6124681.html?q=1&tag=gs_hp_topslot_click

It may be lagging a tad behind in memory (256 versus 512, unless Sony changes that), but otherwise the specs look better. Yes, I know, one cannot always compare specs against each other on a one versus one basis, but it still looks superior. I guess we'll see in about 7-8 months...

The graphics chip looks simply beastly. It's more powerful then "two GeForce 6800 Ultra video cards," as Gamespot says. It also supports 32:9 widescreen or two HD-televisions, play your game on one side while doing a video chat on the second. It looks like they were looking at Nintendo DS. Good call!

It's compatible with the PSP and supports up to 7 bluetooth controllers per console (actually, that one made me scratch my head... seven? I mean, how many people can you fit on one screen? I guess it may have something to do with being able to use two televisions for one unit... that would be PIMP). Also got 6 USB ports... if you ever need to plug in 6 USB items? That one also made me scratch my head, but I guess we'll find out the use later on.

Plus, it's actually backwards compatible, unlike the Xbox 360. Obviously, this feature is only so useful, as more and more games come available, the older ones are played less and less. However, it's the principal of the thing!

That it DEFINATELY at the top of my wish list for the next generation systems, unless Nintendo puts out something that completely owns (which is very possible, depending on price and all that. I admire a company that is capable of putting powerful computing into a small package, which looks like Nintendo's right now). Who knows? I might completely change my tune.

- Greg

PS: I know I will get accused of being a Sony fanboy, but that is not true. More than anything, you could accuse me of being an Anti-Microsoft fanboy. I like anything that does not contribute to their operating system monopoly, which in this case, is Sony and Nintendo. Please do not break off on a tangent on the monopoly issue, but if you want to PM me with your views, I will gladly share my opinion on that and back it up!

 

[DaN20]

Linux, you're not the only person who likes Sony on this forum. To say the least, the PS3 LOOKS AWESOME! Man, 1080p standard for games, seven Bluetooth controlers....kind of strange, but will see how that works out. Backwards compatibility all the way to PSone, good god. And that Unreal demo from the press conference, it looked awesome. Overall, i'm pumped to get a PS3 (runs for cover as there are many close-minded Xbox fanboys about to flame me)


---Dan

 

[linuxn00b2004]

LoL! I know what you mean... I love how I got a negative rating on one of my posts because, "if you're going to flame a highly sucessful company, at lease have some reference material to back you up." I actaully have a LOT of reference material, and I've posted it in many threads. I just figured people would get tired of me repeating my opinions and evidence. I found it very funny, actually.

Yeah, my eyes kinda first skipped over that first bit but it's a big deal: 1080P! w00t! So so sharp...

On paper, the PS3 is a superior system, what with the mighty processor, dual screen capability, 7 wireless controllers per console (think sports games or dual TVs), 6 USB ports (not that that is a true selling point, but it's another bell and whistle), extremely powerful graphics card, Blue-Ray and HD-DVD ready, also very capable of being equiped with a HDD. In theory, it is very, very powerful. I guess we'll see when it comes to actual sales. If Microsoft times their release wrong, it'll end up just being another Dreamcast. That was a good system, but Sega released it too far ahead of it's time and lost a lot of money. Same thing with the Sega Saturn: good system, but too far ahead of it's time.

Actually... I wouldn't mind if that occured at all... (I was just said that to bug you Xbox fanboys out there, even though I do feel that way.)

- Greg

 

[DaN20]

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. Microsoft may be showing it's hand a little too early and may end up rushing games in order to beat the PS3 to the market and might become another Dreamcast. I hope this isn't the case, as I am looking forward to the 360, but it's a possibility. And yeah, you would like that being that you hate Microsoft, for there stranglehold on the Windows or such (correct me if I'm wrong ) which is a valid point. Hell, I hate EA just for the fact that they bought the NFL license, so it's all good. Back to the PS3, the thing is going to kick some major ass. The games, having a Blu-Ray drive capable of playing movies in Hi-Def is going to be a thing of beauty and all the other cool sh*t it can do. Man, I honestly can't wait!


---Dan

 

[djbass]

I think as usual I'll reserve my oppinion till both units are out.

As for the 7 bluetooth controllers, that's nothing new, infact it's one controller less than what the PSX & PS2 already support. Which via dual multi-taps can have up to 8 controllers connected... though games that support this feature are quite rare.

 

[linuxn00b2004]

...stranglehold on the Windows or such (correct me if I'm wrong ) which is a valid point...

You are absolutely correct. I will not touch another one of their products until they loose serious marketshare... and have better ethics... you assumed correctly.

I think as usual I'll reserve my oppinion till both units are out.

As for the 7 bluetooth controllers, that's nothing new, infact it's one controller less than what the PSX & PS2 already support. Which via dual multi-taps can have up to 8 controllers connected... though games that support this feature are quite rare.

Really? I had no idea! You learn something new everyday.

- Greg

 

[Dragonis.Lou]

The PS3 will support 2.5" HD's... But, the thing that confuses me, is that Sony is the console champ because it was smaller then the Xbox, and now they have opted to go for more performance and a bigger unit then the 360. If i can get the cash... I will get both, but right now it looks like PS3 is ahead in my book. Idon't care about the size... It's about performance for me.

 

[mmicrosysm]

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica]might become another Dreamcast[/font]

[font=&quot]No he didn't, actually the down fall happened well before the Dreamcast. Saturn put a bad taste in everyone’s mouth including the developers. But when the Xbox became a rumored new system, which was the stake driven through Sega’s heart. Developers jumped shipped a swam to the SS MICRO$OFT [/font]

 

[halomaster7777]

I'm prolly gonna get a XBOX360 first, because I have an mad addiction to xbox live, and I have many friends on there, but as soon as the PS3 goes though its first $$$ drop I'm gonna get one.

 

[CoHPhasor]

Dreamcast's real downfall was the fact that EVERY brother had one, but most of them were pirating their EASILY pirated sh*t. Sega wasn't thinking clearly, and as was previously stated the giant flop of the Saturn had already left everyone with that horrible taste.

Of course the M$ beasts came along offering this new system, and possibly some real money, and there that went.

M$ stepping out this far ahead was the ONLY move they could make. After all, PS2 was out for a WHILE before Xbox, had a great set of titels, AND played PSone games making it an uphill battle.

Now with 360 they don't want to offer reverse compatability mainly b/c of the ways to exploit old games, so they're only choice was to launch far ahead to get some titles out there.
(Though personally I think that spring next year will be too soon for Halo3, and I'm not sure that they can come up with enough features that will make us rush to buy it INSTEAD of a PS3)

 

[demonicphoenix]

Yeah linuxnoob your wrong about the memory, the Xbox360 has 512mb of GDDR @ 700mhz and this memory is used by the main system and the video card. The PS3 has 256mb of GDDR @ 700mhz memory for the nvidia RSX video card in the PS3, however this is where it gets better the system(cell) uses 256mb of RAMBUS's new memory XDR which runs at 2300Mhz. OH and the whole 7 controller thing is becuase a bluetooth pico network and only have 8 mediums in it(7 controllers and the console).

 

[linuxn00b2004]

Ahhhh, good call demonicphoenix. The Playstation 3 is far more powerful even in the memory department. Quick eye!

Man, the Playstation 3 is far more powerful on all fronts, isn't it? Holy crap, that is a powerful system.

- Greg

 

[demonicphoenix]

Yeah, what really irks me is that I dont know if the techdemo(killzone) is actual gameplay or just a movie clip. Oh well what distro you using linuxnoob, heh I dont have a comp anymore(parents took it away cause I didnt study), using my parents windoze box now but I used to run linux on my box(Arch linux 2.6.11 kernel).

 

[hairybelly]

One of the talked about features of the PS3 that I thought was really good is the dual display output.

I have 2 xboxes for playing system link, but with the PS3 all that I would need is 2 TV's.

Thats cool I thought until I read that the dual output is only possible through the HDMI ouputs.

I dont know anyone that has a HDMI compatible TV, and its unlikely that anyone can afford one at present so whats the point.

I had to get a loan to buy my Sharp Aquos (£1900/$3493!) and am Pissed off now because It does'nt have an HDMI input ARRGGHH!!

Another thing thats putting me off the PS3 the more I read is the predicted price.

Lets say for arguments sake that it is as much as $500.
At the current exchange rate that would be £271.

Now £271 sounds quite reasonable to me. But as any one who lives in rip off Britain knows thats not the way it works.

What usually happens is that if something in the US costs $500 it will cost the same amount in pounds i.e. $500 = £500.

So 500 Pounds at the current rate of exchange equals 919 Dollars.

RIP OFF!! eh.

I might be exagerating the figures a bit, but I bet not by much.

Incidently do Americans use the term Rip Off? (if not I think you can get the meaning from the above)

 

[Negative Creep]

Incidently do Americans use the term Rip Off? (if not I think you can get the meaning from the above)

We sure do... especially when dealing with Sony's products, in my opinion.

 

[linuxn00b2004]

Yeah, what really irks me is that I dont know if the techdemo(killzone) is actual gameplay or just a movie clip. Oh well what distro you using linuxnoob, heh I dont have a comp anymore(parents took it away cause I didnt study), using my parents windoze box now but I used to run linux on my box(Arch linux 2.6.11 kernel).

I'm the proud user of Red Hat Linux...

Sometimes, I wish my folks would take away my computer... I love the internet too much! Whenever I get back from class, I always say to myself, "Just ten minutes..."

Six hours later, I'm like, "Greg! WTF are you doing? It's 12:00 AM, and you have friggin' finals tomorrow!" So then, it takes me about another 30 minutes to hop off (cool down time... ), and I'm screwed the next morning. I did very poorly on a Calculus final today... oh well. I'm headed to my college <see sig> next fall regardless, so it's all good. Plus, I think I got 5 free hours of college credit, due to a mistake on the part of a local University... heh heh. I might even have a few extra MORE hours with my AP exams. The only thing I need now is money... and lots of it. I will be taking out almost $11,000 per year in loans...

Oooh, I wandered off what you said there. Did I mention I have ADD?

Hey hairybelly, just thought I would also mention that the XBox 360 is also going to be expensive. XBox Scene says they have to add on another $30-50 for the included hard drive. If they truely wanted to put out the "budget" system, and drop the apparent price, they should have not advertised it as having the 20 gigger included. After all, they were desperately looking for a feature that Sony did not have included or a feature that was more powerful. Looks to me like Sony's got them beat on every angle, unless Sony really screws up the online component. We'll see...

I've never had a single problem with any of my purchases of Sony products. They practically always are better then the previous equivalent I owned.

- Greg

 

[RealestDeMo]

heh, I will wait for launch. I personally most likely will get the nintendo revolution first and wait for 360 and ps3 to price drop and get some mods. Plus I'll still be able to play with my live friends on Xbox (the ones who got Xbox 360), and will probably play xbox for a long time because of the backups I got on HD and how much more convenient it is to play that way. The other thing is my HDTV doesn't support 720p, which doesn't make sense because the guy at the store said it should BEFORE I brought it home and found out it doesn't (which is ok because it was cheap for an HDTV), so i'd have to wait for more 1080i games come out for the games to even look better than a standard TV, unless the games that support 720p also support 480p.

BTW looks like Xbox 360 has a TON more memory bandwith, and quite frankly I have a messload more xbox games than PS2 and PS1 games combined, so backwards compatibility for PS3 is not a motivating factor!

 

[linuxn00b2004]

The other thing is my HDTV doesn't support 720p, which doesn't make sense because the guy at the store said it should BEFORE I brought it home and found out it doesn't (which is ok because it was cheap for an HDTV), so i'd have to wait for more 1080i games come out for the games to even look better than a standard TV, unless the games that support 720p also support 480p.

Wow, you're a more accepting person then I am: even if it was cheap, I would be pretty annoyed when my "720p HDTV" would only play 480p. I would been POed. I would have returned it over the principal of the thing.

- Greg

 

[RealestDeMo]

Well, the thing under the TV said 480p and 1080i, but the salesman said because it supports those two resolutions it should support 720p. It was only 500$ so it was a great deal, especially for the size.

 

[linuxn00b2004]

Nice! Where did you get this?

- Greg