Switching from X2 Lite to X3? Is this going to be difficult?

SenateDC

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Alright I placed a X2 Lite 2.1 in my Xbox v.1.0 a year in half ago with the wire solder method. I wanted to know how hard it would be to switch to the X3. Is there any settings or anything I am going to have to do to the hdd or bios before switching?
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JasonX

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New to this forum and to xbox 360 some questions.

Like what i said in my thread im new in this forum and new to xbox 360 world. i heard so much complain about this console.

i bought a modified xbox 360 arcade asian ver. yesterday.

don't have any idea about the risk of this console. only the 3 red lights that the owner of the shop where i bought said about it.

kindly please post all the info about the risk of xbox360. like 3 red lights,getting ban...etc.

i want to know what are those risk,solutions,what things do i need to do,what are the things should i update/download/install, and how to avoid the risk..giving me the link will help me alot.

if im going to summary this thread its like this.

how to avoid getting 3 red lights?
how to avoid getting ban from xbox live?
how to avoid getting ban from xbox console?
does xbox 360 have firmware update just like ps3 have?
can i use xbox live even i don't play original games?
what tools do i need to burn a xbox 360 games?
how to transfer my dl xbox 360 games from pc to the hdd of my xbox 360?
if i play a burn xbox 360 games while online at xbox live will i get ban?

thats all i know. got that idea from my classmate but he didn't explain it. just said the risk that he knows.

if theres more info about the risk,solutions,what things do i need to do,what are the things should i update/download/install, and how to avoid the risk. please kindly post it. thnx in advance.

i admit that im totally new/noob/inocent/don't have idea to the world of xbox 360.
 

xvanwilderx

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Re: New to this forum and to xbox 360 some questions.

1. how to avoid getting 3 red lights?
Keep your console in a cool, clean place. Use the console laying flat, don't use it standing up. Make sure there is enough room around the console for good airflow. Try not to keep it in direct sunlight. Smoking will clog your console with dust and make it smell bad - smoking is never good. You can buy a Nyko Intercooler for the console. You can also do some case mods and add extra fans to keep it even cooler. But even if you do all of this you could still end up getting the RRoD and you will need to do a reflow and the x-clamp fix.

2. how to avoid getting ban from xbox live? how to avoid getting ban from xbox console?
If you are really worried about getting banned from Xbox Live and never want to get banned, the best thing to do is just play legit and not mod your console. However, if that's not an option, there are some things you can do. First, make sure your console has a BenQ or LiteOn drive. If it has another type of drive, then it will not have the iXtreme LT firmware on it, which is the only firmware that is currently undetectable on XBL. You can check your drive type using the following page: http://arkdesigns.ca/drivetype/. If it's a BenQ or LiteOn, then get it updated to iXtreme LT v1.1 right away.
You say you bought an Asian pre-modified Xbox 360? Have you checked if the console has already been banned? It has most likely already been flagged if the previous owner has played it, since we don't know what firmware he has used and whether the backups he used on it where properly made. You can check if the console has already been banned using the Xbox 360 support website. Try to request a repair for the console, if the website gives you an error, the console is banned. If it's banned, then it is probably crippled too.

I am not going to bother answering the rest of your questions as most of what I just said probably doesn't make sense to you. You should do more research before you jump into things like this. You have little knowledge of the Xbox 360, yet you buy a modded one and then ask a bunch of questions.
 

JasonX

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Re: New to this forum and to xbox 360 some questions.

my xbox 360 is brand new and i bought it from the store. they said its already modified so that i can play burn games and non ligit games.

here in my country most store selling xbox 360 not modified and xbox 360 modified coz they're selling ligit games and non ligit games. but most people choose to buy a non ligit games. ligit games price is like 65USD and that's too expensive, while the non ligit game price is like 2USD only.

im only a student that is not poor or rich im in the middle class and cant buy too many ligit games thats why i choose the xbox 360 modified so that i can buy many games. before, i own a PS3 and there's no non ligit games for it. and my friend said you better bought a xbox 360 modifed coz you can play a non ligit games and most games on the ps3 and xbox 360 are same.

my point why i bought a xbox 360 modified coz i can buy a games for only 2USD and thats all i know from the xbox 360 modified. after i bought it thats the time i heard so many CONS about xbox 360 modified and im disapointed what cons i heard from xbox 360 modified.

i admit that i din't do any research about the xbox 360 before buying it. coz what i had said,my point why i bought xbox 360 modified is to play non ligit games only cost 2USD. thats all i know from xbox 360 modified.

i haven't check if my console is already been banned coz when i tested it from the store the internet cable isn't plugin.

about the dvd drive type, i think i can't open my console coz if the sticker is removed the warranty will be gone.

at the back of my receipt it said
Lifetime service warranty
1 month part replacement
no warranty for 3 red lights.

hope that anyone read this will understand my explain and not get mad on me. hoping that i can read more info.
 

xvanwilderx

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Re: New to this forum and to xbox 360 some questions.

You do not need to take apart your Xbox 360 to determine your drive type, simply follow what is says on the following webpage: arkdesigns.ca/drivetype.

You also do not need to take your console apart to see if it's banned, you don't even need to turn it on. Just to go support.xbox.com and request a repair for your console. If the repair request fails or gives you an error, that means your console is banned - if it brings you to a page where you can fill out your info and complete the repair request your console is not banned. You will need your consoles serial number, which is written on the back of your Xbox 360 under the bar-code. It is also written beside the USB ports on the front of your console when you push the plastic flap back.

Selling game-backups / non-legit games is illegal, where do you live? Selling modified consoles is okay, but they will not be covered by Microsoft's warranty, unless you are smart about it.

What is the manufacturing date of your console? You can check by looking at the back of your Xbox 360 above the bar-code where is says MFR Date. It will be in the format YYYY-MM-DD. The console may be in new condition, but it may not be new.

If you have time, you should go back to the shop and ask: What firmware is on the drive? What DVD drive is in the console? Is the Xbox 360 banned? Has the Xbox 360 been modified before? Have any improperly made / unstealthed games been played on the console? Has the console had problems reading games or had the RRoD / other errors?

Since your Xbox is modded, playing original / legit games or backups / unlegit games (as long as the backups are properly made) won't make a difference in terms of being banned from XBL.

If your console is not banned, has not been flagged (modded with pre-LT firmware or used to play unstealthed game backups), and has the LT firmware on it (LT v1.1 if it has a BenQ drive) and the games you play on it are properly made, you should be fairly safe on XBL.
 

JasonX

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Re: New to this forum and to xbox 360 some questions.

i look at that site and find my console. i saw a MFR date 2009-10-16.
but mine is not PAL i think. coz the region of my xbox 360 is asian.

i plugin my internet cable to my xbox 360 and turn it on then went to the site that you said then i request to repair console then it bring a page to fill out. after that i didn't do anything even filling out it.

yah your right selling non-legit games is illegal. but our goverment can't stop them from selling non-legit games. i live in the Philippines.

i think i can ask what firmware is on the drive,what DVD drive is in the console. the rest i think i can't ask them. coz i can imagine that the owner of the shop where i bought it going to said its brand new and only modified to play non-legit games.

want to clarifly this...backup games and non-legit games is the same?

and what im going to reply if they ask me why did you ask What firmware is on the drive? What DVD drive is in the console?
 

JasonX

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Re: New to this forum and to xbox 360 some questions.

KasparP said:
What the f**k are you saying?
why don't you read the whole post and understand it.
 

xvanwilderx

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mickeyz said:
i saw a MFR date 2009-10-16... What DVD drive is in the console?
Your console was manufactured October 10th, 2009 - so it most likely has a LiteOn drive, which is good. And it also means it most likely has the iXtreme LT firmware. However, please verify that you have a LiteOn drive! You DO NOT need to take apart your console, it is very simple - just follow the steps on the following page: arkdesigns.ca/drivetype
All you have to do is take the faceplate off (which is meant to come off, it won't break it or void your warranty) and look at the colour of the wires in the drive.

mickeyz said:
but mine is not PAL i think. coz the region of my xbox 360 is asian.
That's correct. NTSC is the TV format used in Canada, Japan, Mexico, Philippines, Taiwan, United States, and other countries. PAL is the TV format used in most of Europe, most of Africa, China, India, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, North Korea, and other countries. Some DVD players only play NTSC or PAL discs, while others can play both standards. Your Xbox 360 should play NTSC Xbox 360 games.

mickeyz said:
want to clarifly this...backup games and non-legit games is the same?
This is why I need to know what type of firmware you have on your drive. If you have iXtreme LT v1.0/v1.1 and you have a LiteOn drive, and your game backups are made properly (I'm assuming they are if you're buying them from someone else) then it won't make a difference whether you play backups or originals.

mickeyz said:
and what im going to reply if they ask me why did you ask What firmware is on the drive? What DVD drive is in the console?
Tell them that you need to know because if you don't have the right firmware, you will get banned from XBL! But if you check what type of drive you have yourself, and it's a LiteOn, then you don't need to go back to the shop or call them (or email them) and ask these questions. Because if you have a LiteOn (and you most likely do) and you just bought this Xbox, then it will probably have iXtreme LT and you should be good to go. You also shouldn't have problems with RRoD or anything unless you smoke around your Xbox and really abuse it (since it's fairly new).

i plugin my internet cable to my xbox 360 and turn it on then went to the site that you said then i request to repair console then it bring a page to fill out. after that i didn't do anything even filling out it.
Okay it's not banned. But you bought it pre-modified at a store, and it's brand new so you should have no problems.

EDIT: If you don't plan to use your Xbox 360 online (on XBL), then it doesn't matter what type of drive you have in your console, what firmware is on it and what type of games you play. You can't get banned from XBL if you don't connect to XBL.
 

JasonX

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Re: New to this forum and to xbox 360 some questions.

Twinbird said:
Your console was manufactured October 10th, 2009 - so it most likely has a LiteOn drive, which is good. And it also means it most likely has the iXtreme LT firmware. However, please verify that you have a LiteOn drive! You DO NOT need to take apart your console, it is very simple - just follow the steps on the following page: arkdesigns.ca/drivetype
All you have to do is take the faceplate off (which is meant to come off, it won't break it or void your warranty) and look at the colour of the wires in the drive.
i already understand this part but i didn't said what dvd drive is in the console?
the technician said its LiteOn drive. i went to the store where i bought it yesterday.

Twinbird said:
This is why I need to know what type of firmware you have on your drive. If you have iXtreme LT v1.0/v1.1 and you have a LiteOn drive, and your game backups are made properly (I'm assuming they are if you're buying them from someone else) then it won't make a difference whether you play backups or originals.
Twinbird said:
Tell them that you need to know because if you don't have the right firmware, you will get banned from XBL! But if you check what type of drive you have yourself, and it's a LiteOn, then you don't need to go back to the shop or call them (or email them) and ask these questions. Because if you have a LiteOn (and you most likely do) and you just bought this Xbox, then it will probably have iXtreme LT and you should be good to go. You also shouldn't have problems with RRoD or anything unless you smoke around your Xbox and really abuse it (since it's fairly new).
the technician said the firmware is iXtreme v1.6 non-stealth and i also ask the serial of my LiteOn Drive its 93450c. then i ask what is LT,the technician said its called LiteTouch(don't know the correct spelling) and he said we already have the latest iXtreme LT v1.1 or v1.0 but its still has bug,but if you want just bring your xbox and ill make it LT.

don,t know whats the difference of iXtreme and iXtreme LT. im afraid what technician said that LT has a bug.

if the firmware of my LiteOn is LT then i can play backups while connected to XBL or even can play in XBL while the backups is in the drive?
 

xvanwilderx

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Re: New to this forum and to xbox 360 some questions.

Okay, so the drive inside your Xbox 360 is a LiteOn 93450c. 93450c is not the serial, it's the firmware version - but you don't need to worry about that. iXtreme v1.6 non-stealth is detectable on XBL. Anything other than iXtreme LT (LiteTouch) is detectable on XBL! Since your console has iXtreme v1.6 non-stealth then it may already be flagged and your console will get banned eventually. I don't understand why they didn't just flash it with LT.
The LT firmware was created in response to the amount of people getting banned due to previous firmware and is suppose to be undetectable on XBL. There is no bug in the LT firmware for LiteOns, don't listen to what the guy is saying. LT v1.0 and v1.1 for LiteOn drives are both good and undetectable on XBL - they will not cause any harm. The Liteon v1.1 LT just has improved media recognition for those with dirty disc error.

The technician should have the latest firmware versions and be using them - they are free and easily accessible.

Get your drive updated to iXtreme LT v1.1 (which is the latest version available for it at the moment). The firmware you have on your drive right now is not safe on XBL - even if you play offline and with original games, your console logs the data and flags your console as modded. Your console may already be flagged since you have that firmware on it - but get it updated and don't play on it until you do. And when it's updated, make sure you only play original games and games that have been properly patched (all disc images must be checked with abgx360 and all stealth/ss/pfi/dmi must be correct and if it's a wave 3 or above it should be SS v2).

You can play on XBL whenever you want, with original games and with backups. Just make sure the backups are good, as mentioned above. If you do get banned, it will not be because of game backups, it will be because you have been flagged due to the firmware you have on the drive right now (iXtreme 1.6) or because Microsoft somehow figured out how to detect iXtreme LT.
 

inbochoi

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Re: New to this forum and to xbox 360 some questions.

mickeyz said:
KasparP said:
What the f**k are you saying?
why don't you read the whole post and understand it.
Why don't you stop typing like a 4 year old and read the responses?
 

JasonX

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Re: New to this forum and to xbox 360 some questions.

Twinbird said:
Okay, so the drive inside your Xbox 360 is a LiteOn 93450c. 93450c is not the serial, it's the firmware version - but you don't need to worry about that. iXtreme v1.6 non-stealth is detectable on XBL. Anything other than iXtreme LT (LiteTouch) is detectable on XBL! Since your console has iXtreme v1.6 non-stealth then it may already be flagged and your console will get banned eventually. I don't understand why they didn't just flash it with LT.
The LT firmware was created in response to the amount of people getting banned due to previous firmware and is suppose to be undetectable on XBL. There is no bug in the LT firmware for LiteOns, don't listen to what the guy is saying. LT v1.0 and v1.1 for LiteOn drives are both good and undetectable on XBL - they will not cause any harm. The Liteon v1.1 LT just has improved media recognition for those with dirty disc error
ohh i thought its the serial of my LiteOn Drive. what does flagged means?
yesterday in the evening, i formatted my hdd and memory of my xbox 360 then play wanted weapons of fate(non-legit) but the net cable isn't plugin.

Twinbird said:
Get your drive updated to iXtreme LT v1.1 (which is the latest version available for it at the moment). The firmware you have on your drive right now is not safe on XBL - even if you play offline and with original games, your console logs the data and flags your console as modded. Your console may already be flagged since you have that firmware on it - but get it updated and don't play on it until you do. And when it's updated, make sure you only play original games and games that have been properly patched (all disc images must be checked with abgx360 and all stealth/ss/pfi/dmi must be correct and if it's a wave 3 or above it should be SS v2).
i searched in this forum the LiteOn iXtreme LT v1.1 but can't find where i can dl it in here.
do i need to reformat my hdd,memory of my xbox 360 and run the initial setup before updating to LiteOn iXtreme LT v1.1?
Twinbird said:
even if you play offline and with original games, your console logs the data and flags your console as modded
you mean even i play offline but not connected to XBL my console logs will be detect? btw,i don't have original games.
Twinbird said:
make sure you only play original games
i don't have original games.i only have pirated games that i bought from the store.
Twinbird said:
games that have been properly patched (all disc images must be checked with abgx360 and all stealth/ss/pfi/dmi must be correct and if it's a wave 3 or above it should be SS v2).
don't have a clue about this one. could you explain it.
Twinbird said:
You can play on XBL whenever you want, with original games and with backups. Just make sure the backups are good, as mentioned above. If you do get banned, it will not be because of game backups, it will be because you have been flagged due to the firmware you have on the drive right now (iXtreme 1.6) or because Microsoft somehow figured out how to detect iXtreme LT.
oops! im confuse as you mention above you said "but get it updated and don't play on it until you do. And when it's updated, make sure you only play original games"
and now you said i can play original and backups.

backup and non-legit are the same? coz in my upderstanding, backups is dl the games in the internet and burn it. and the non-legit is where you bought a pirated games. thats my understanding. correct my if im wrong thnx.
 

xvanwilderx

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Re: New to this forum and to xbox 360 some questions.

mickeyz said:
what does flagged means?
If means the console has been identified as being modded - so if you connect to Xbox Live, Microsoft knows your Xbox 360 is modded and can ban you whenever they want.

mickeyz said:
i formatted my hdd and memory of my xbox 360 then play wanted weapons of fate(non-legit) but the net cable isn't plugin.
It doesn't matter if you format your memory or HDD and play with the cable unplugged. Even if you play offline, the console stores information about what you're doing onto a chip on the motherboard (which you cannot format or delete). When you connect to Xbox Live (having the internet cable plugged in won't do anything, you must actually connect to Xbox Live) important information about your console is uploaded to Microsoft. Among this will be information about your console that will tell Microsoft that it's modded and they can ban you.

mickeyz said:
i searched in this forum the LiteOn iXtreme LT v1.1 but can't find where i can dl it in here.
Don't download it yourself as you are a n00b and will not be able to flash it to your drive. If you can't find it you're not looking in the right places - but that doesn't matter.

mickeyz said:
you mean even i play offline but not connected to XBL my console logs will be detect? btw,i don't have original games.
They will be detected once you actually sign into XBL. However, if you had iXtreme LT, this could have been avoided as iXtreme LT is undetectable (as long as your backups are good).

mickeyz said:
backup and non-legit are the same?
They are exactly the same, I just refer to them as backups - don't get confused.

mickeyz said:
oops! im confuse as you mention above you said "but get it updated and don't play on it until you do. And when it's updated, make sure you only play original games"
and now you said i can play original and backups.
:cry: Well, none of that matters now, really. The firmware you have on your console now is DETECTABLE. I did not just say play originals, the sentence goes on to say "and games that have been properly patched". This is getting harder and harder to explain to you. Right now you can play BOTH original games and non-legit / backups. If you update it, you can still play BOTH original games and non-legit / backups. The thing is, with your current firmware, you will get banned from XBL.

Twinbird said:
games that have been properly patched (all disc images must be checked with abgx360 and all stealth/ss/pfi/dmi must be correct and if it's a wave 3 or above it should be SS v2).
This will be too much for you to understand. But the games you are buying should be okay. Whoever you're buying the games from, ask them if the games are safe to play on XBL and fully compatible with iXtreme LT.


In the end, you should still update to iXtreme LT. You may still get banned, but it's a lot better than sticking with 1.6.
 

JasonX

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Re: New to this forum and to xbox 360 some questions.

Thank you so much for giving me so much info about xbox 360 Twinbird.

btw, i thought its easy to update into iXtreme LT. just dl it on the net then then transfer on the xbox 360 then install. but i saw how its done on the youtube and in my situation,i can't do it by myself.

i went to the store where i bought my xbox 360. i asked their technician if he can update my firmware for free coz i bought it there. and he said he can update the firmware to iXtreme LT v1.0. i ask you don't have the latest iXtreme LT v1.1? the technician said we have but thats not for free it cost 21USD(if you convert 1000 Pesos into Dollar)

is it ok i let their technician update it to iXtreme v1.0? coz at the moment i cant aford to pay to update to the latest firmware.
 

xvanwilderx

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Re: New to this forum and to xbox 360 some questions.

mickeyz said:
Thank you so much for giving me so much info about xbox 360 Twinbird.
Your welcome!

mickeyz said:
is it ok i let their technician update it to iXtreme v1.0? coz at the moment i cant aford to pay to update to the latest firmware.
Yes that's okay - iXtreme LT v1.1 only improves media recognition. Unless you're getting any "disk unreadable" or "dirty disk" errors (which I assume you shouldn't since the person you're buying the games from should be selling good ones) then you don't really need to update to v1.1. You should be fine with iXtreme LT v1.0.

But if the technician can update to LT v1.0 then he can update to LT v1.1. It's the exact same process - it's not like having to update to v1.1 is going to cost him more than updating to v1.0. He should have flashed it with iXtreme LT v1.1 in the first place, I'm not sure why he didn't explain to you what I've been explaining to you in this entire thread.
 

JasonX

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Re: New to this forum and to xbox 360 some questions.

maybe its there business.