TV Screen Position

Froz

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I feel like this is a stupid question but I just can't seem to find it in any of the help files/forums. On the sh*tty TV that I'm playing on, the screen doesn't display correctly. For example, the top line of the X3 Config live screen is cut in half and it's too far to the left. Same thing happens when I launch EvoX but mostly the bottom stuff is cutoff. Am I supposed to setup the TV or something?

Please help or point me in the right direction.
Thanks,
Froz
 

RoaZtedPuppy

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it depends on your tv!!! tell us what tv you have.
 

Froz

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currently on a pos sanyo model # ds19310

Alternate setup would be a 36" zenith
 

RoaZtedPuppy

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and now you wait for someone who has that TV to tell you waht to do
 

ozzy

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Is it the same on both TV's
 

Froz

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It is slightly different on each TV but mainly the same. The Zenith 36" dispalys just a bit better but still cuts off top and bottom lines. It's also a bit more to the left.
 

michael816

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Ya, my TV has that problem too, I dont know how to fix it... I should be getting a new HDTV Widescreen soon though... so I font really care.
 

RoaZtedPuppy

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hmmm... i wonder why that is. It doesnt happen to me.
 

macel

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yeh, this happens on my good ol' RCA F20TF10 tv too. I'm missing the first row and have plenty of space at the bottom.
 

michael816

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O and on my non-modded Xbox PGR 2 is reall cut off all over the place, I tried to center it on the screen, but it impossiable. I cant wait for the new TV.
 

SchOX

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Not shure I understand what you mean, but there was a aspectratio bug (14:9 not 16:9) in X3bios v.1957, it is fixed in v.1959.
This cut the top an botom part of the image on my panasonic telly unless i fixed the aspectratio (on the TV) to 16:9.
 

NeOnRaBbIt

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What kind of tv is it?? Is it a flat screen or the curved type? I mean just the screen not like a plasma panel. I play on a pos rca 20 maybe 22 inch projection type tv and everything is cutoff at certian points. And that goes for tv viewing also, so its most likely not the xbox but the tv. Or atleast it is in my case.
 

althekiller

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this has nothing to do with the chip nor bios (except the case of the AR bug in 1957). everyone who is complaining of this describes their tv as a POS. hmmm, i wonder what the problem could be...
 

umpa

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This is an old issue that first came to light around 1980 when personal (micro) computers became popular.

Now I cant remember it all but I'm sure this is what its all about!

Some TV's display the screen incorrectly, this is to do with a thing called 'Overscan', and basically it’s an area of the TV screen which is out of the tubes display area.

It’s used in TV to make sure the picture fills the whole of the screen, and not leave a border.

You can read about it here http://www.mastersofcinema.org/reviews/03lookingbeyond.htm

If you can’t adjust your set I don’t think you can do anything about it apart from taking the back off the set and manually adjusting the pots.

I did this on an old set I had, it was only used for the Xbox and so I tailor made the image to fit. Doing this may make TV Programs not display correctly.

This problem has nothing to do with your xbox.
 
drozek said:
i got a sh*tty apex 20' mines cuts sh*t of too and is angled wrong
I have a 60" Hitachi Ultravision - and it is crystal clear :D ... someone else mentioned that the common element here was that everyone who has problems starts by saying "I have this <insert brand> POS TV ...".

The comment on the overscan is correct. SOME models (especially older ones) had (I think) 3 pots that stuck out to adjust the picture - horizontal scroll, left/right, top/bottom. Remember that a TV works by having a beam of light activate phosor dots on the inside of the picture tube. This scanning is done using powerful magnets (well, magnets and electromagnets). The pots were used to manually adjust the scan ranges of the light emitter (the "cathode" part of CRT).

As manufacturers got wiser, the pots went from being externally adjusted, to internally adjusted trim pots (instead of a bar to twist, you needed to slip a screw driver into a slot), and access went from holes in the back of the TV, to needing to take apart the TV to access them. So a job anyone cold do, now went to something a trained monkey needed to do for you (and charge you for it).

Once they made sure you couldn't adjust the parts yourself, the risk of hurting yourself went up as well. So now, unless you really know what you are doing, what was once a safe thing to do yourself can get you fried for touching a screwdriver to a cap while you were reaching for the potentiometer.

This is a win/win for everyone execpt you. Your TV needs adjusting, you need to take it out for repair - repairman wins. You do it yourself, and break something in the process, send it out for repair, repairman tells you its broken and will cost big $$ to fix so you might as well buy a new one and charges you for the fact - repairman wins, manufacturer wins. You really screw up, and fry yourself - manufacturer wins, HMO wins.

Gotta love capitalism.
 

Froz

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althekiller said:
this has nothing to do with the chip nor bios (except the case of the AR bug in 1957). everyone who is complaining of this describes their tv as a POS. hmmm, i wonder what the problem could be...
The 19" sanyo is a POS, not the 36" Zenith, nor the other panasonics etc that I've tried it on and see the same thing. smartass.
 

xaerus

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i have the same tv im trying to solve this too is ur writeing f**ked up anyway idc because im tradeing my my 36 living room tv idc same size