TX POST QSB my time results

xboxhack11

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Let me say I dont have a slim, nor have I done an RGH yet, but I recall reading that the reason for building the board was because people noticed that changing the length of the wires, and I assume therefore tweaking the resistance of the circuit, caused a quicker glitch time. How do you use this board? Are you still supposed to be cutting the wire to match each solder point until you get the results you want or is the changing resistence somehow built into the board? If this is true, the OP has huge loops in his wire.
 
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flex3268

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Nov 8, 2011
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Did you boot with the blank board or did you always reassemble the whole box (especially the metal cage)?
I had tried every length on the board to see which one gave me the best times without putting the whole thing back together.The only length hat seed to give me a decent time was 31 so i soldered it back to 31 and put everything back together and now the times went from 6-30 sec when i soldered it the first time to around 1 min after i put everything back together. The times are all over the place i was hoping for more consistent boots :(
 

josh1095

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it helped when i made the 3v line longer so i could route it away from the rst line completely. not sure if thatll help u or not. my boot times are almost always under 30 seconds. very consistent. using 40cm wire
 

Ubergeek

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This has been explained many times, however I will repeat it. Again.

All the slims are different. There is no one setup that is the same as the next.

We offer an install that is consistent and has shown to be the most optimum in tests. The parts we supply remove the variables which cause problems for many people.

Once you have your install it is then on you to tweak it to your own personal best results and share them. Some out there will always be at 30 seconds. I've seen hundreds post less than 5 seconds. It's down to the console there is no clear explanation other than timings on each box are obviously different.

Remember that the timing file was designed and tested by Tiros on just 1 or 2 different slims. It's obvious now that the timings need to be adjusted on a per box basis if you want to get your boot times less than 5 seconds. No one is going to do that for you so it's either learn how to code and compile VHDL or tweak your setup to its optimum and accept that as your best speed.

Personally all my slim test boxes are less than 10 seconds on first boot.

My personal box is a Falcon which is pretty much instant on first boot.
 

Ubergeek

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that was the whole purpose of these boards was to improve boot times not make it a easier instal, its easier to solder 2 wires than the boards themselves :)
the purpose was to eliminate all variables which make each persons install cause problems and to give a consistent setup where you could then achieve your own optimum results.

It's impossible to say that anything will give you 100% guaranteed success as each slim console is different than the next

It may be an idea to start comparing LOT X numbers of those that boot really nice (less than 10 seconds) and those that are slow and inconsistent.
 

Ubergeek

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Can I also remind ppl that if you have issues when CR is switched to slim, try moving the switch to Phat and see if it improves

It's in the troubleshooting section of the guides in case one of you yells Eureka and why wasn't this mentioned before.
 

trippy86

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I made a little progress today but every every boot time under 1 min but most under 20 - 30 seconds.

i used the 3v cable from the phat install wires and joined it to the currently installed wire on my coolrunner to double the length, and moved it away from the other cables

These results were boot after boot and using solder point 50 on the post qsb

00:21.8
00:16.4
00:05.7
00:05.6
00:42.6
00:11.0
00:58.1
00:53.7
00:21.8
00:11.1
00:05.7
00:05.6
00:11.0
00:16.6
00:05.7
00:11.0
00:05.6
00:16.4
00:27.2

not had time to try the other solder points on the post qsb yet but i will try the others tomorrow. here are some pics and a video

[ame]http://youtu.be/lsx606cDdVE[/ame]





 

shawndezy115

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Nov 30, 2011
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i have may hands on thees and they don't seem to be helping. i would get solid 15-35 seconds before qsb. now its completely eradicate.
I HATE SLIMS :(
 

shawndezy115

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i just posted this in the front page. i cut down my blue wire 1 cm at a time and retried all pads.

mine is 6cm long and on pad 41.

now it boots 2-4 glitches
 

DanTechMods

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The funny thing about the slims is even if you get a great boot times with the board out of the case the moment you put it back in the boot times change, I think do to the RF inside the case, once the shielding is back in place. I have had a few that would boot almost instantly everytime out of the case and then back in the case would not boot at all unless the blue wire was between 40 - 50 cm.

In any case I advise my customers to expect boot times to be all over the board, but it will always boot.