TX POST QSB my time results

[spookyman166]

Ive done a few slims, with just the cable, I tried to optimise as much as possible with cable placement...

I was getting boot times of around 45 seconds to a minute.

Once i put the Motherboard inside the console box and put the dvd drive in, i was getting a MAX boot of 30 seconds, and a consistant boot of around 5 to 15 seconds...

 

[2615863]

I did my first today, Tried all of them, all were 30+ second boots except 29cm(5-10 Sec), So I put it there then when I put it back together it went to 20+ Seconds. I hate this qsb atm lol

 

[shawndezy115]

shave i cm off ur wire. then try them all again. 2 of my consoles needed an inbetween size.

 

[spookyman166]

I think shape and placement of wire plays a bigger role, to get from like a minute to 15seconds, the qsb just shaves like 5 to 10 seconds off a full length, shape and placement optimised wire...

 

[Borgut]

I just wanted to give a feedback of my experience with this product:

I am using my slim with TX CR, QSB and Post-PCB. First I left it as it was booting random, just to make my system running. Today (christmas) I had time to tune the booting.

I stated off with the 8cm wire and tested all pads. Took time of ten boots. Best two have been 47 and 50 (for me). Then I decidet to change the wire length by +/- 1 and check on this two pads.

The result:

Using pad 50 with wire 9 cm (hence 51 cm).

Boot times are now < 10 sec (in case; to dash) 8/10. 2/10 are <30 sec. This result is more than exceptable to me!

I did not use any additional caps or other things all "experts" on the net tell you to.

Furthermore this QSBs are that easy to use that even I could do it!!

Thank you TX and merry Xmas!!!!

[@All flaming TX products are too expensive ... go with your cheap crap if you want to and waste your time!!! I did the tuning in less than 1 hour without high soldering skills.]

 

[chapimp]

I was getting randoms boot times before the post qsb.
Now it got worst

 

[ms30250]

This has been explained many times, however I will repeat it. Again.

All the slims are different. There is no one setup that is the same as the next.

We offer an install that is consistent and has shown to be the most optimum in tests. The parts we supply remove the variables which cause problems for many people.

Once you have your install it is then on you to tweak it to your own personal best results and share them. Some out there will always be at 30 seconds. I've seen hundreds post less than 5 seconds. It's down to the console there is no clear explanation other than timings on each box are obviously different.

Remember that the timing file was designed and tested by Tiros on just 1 or 2 different slims. It's obvious now that the timings need to be adjusted on a per box basis if you want to get your boot times less than 5 seconds. No one is going to do that for you so it's either learn how to code and compile VHDL or tweak your setup to its optimum and accept that as your best speed.

Personally all my slim test boxes are less than 10 seconds on first boot.

My personal box is a Falcon which is pretty much instant on first boot.

I have to agree! My main box is a slim with no tweaks just followed the instructions and it boots most times under 15 seconds. Sometimes its slow and I've seen 45 seconds. If its taking too long all I have to do is hit the drive eject button and it immediately glitches. I've done two slims and they both boot just like this... I also have done my two backup falcons and they boot as fast as they did stock.

 

[trippy86]

Ive done a few slims, with just the cable, I tried to optimise as much as possible with cable placement...

I was getting boot times of around 45 seconds to a minute.

Once i put the Motherboard inside the console box and put the dvd drive in, i was getting a MAX boot of 30 seconds, and a consistant boot of around 5 to 15 seconds...

same for me, the last 6 slims i have done are slightly slower in booting, but as soon as i put it all back together they boot 5 - 20 seconds

I was getting randoms boot times before the post qsb.
Now it got worst

make sure the blue wire is not near to any of the other wires, to be honest to rule it out i would make sure all of the wires are well distanced from each other

 

[Ubergeek]

I was getting randoms boot times before the post qsb.
Now it got worst

Send your console to someone who can do it for you correctly - thats the only advice I can give you if you have followed everything else that has been suggested.

---------- Post added at 18:11 ---------- Previous post was at 18:07 ----------

Look at this thread:

http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76581&page=3

The reason for me using a switched power was that I am putting a capacitor on a resistor in the middle of CPU_RST wire. Works fine for me.

Look at my thread here:

http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76763

Can you please not go off topic - your posts are nothing to do with the POST QSB. There is no need for any length of wire or looping with this component - thanks

 

[xColorado880]

I just wanted to give a feedback of my experience with this product:

I am using my slim with TX CR, QSB and Post-PCB. First I left it as it was booting random, just to make my system running. Today (christmas) I had time to tune the booting.

I stated off with the 8cm wire and tested all pads. Took time of ten boots. Best two have been 47 and 50 (for me). Then I decidet to change the wire length by +/- 1 and check on this two pads.

The result:

Using pad 50 with wire 9 cm (hence 51 cm).

Boot times are now < 10 sec (in case; to dash) 8/10. 2/10 are <30 sec. This result is more than exceptable to me!

I did not use any additional caps or other things all "experts" on the net tell you to.

Furthermore this QSBs are that easy to use that even I could do it!!

Thank you TX and merry Xmas!!!!

[@All flaming TX products are too expensive ... go with your cheap crap if you want to and waste your time!!! I did the tuning in less than 1 hour without high soldering skills.]

Thanks for the share. I will try your suggestion when my POST QSBs come from xConsoles.

 

[Jahaziel]

how many are happy with their TX Post QSB?

 

[tingedace]

Count me as being happy with the slim POST QSBs. I just installed 2 and both machines are booting really well.

It's a bit fiddly getting the solder to melt the way you want but with enough flux it makes a good joint eventually.

As a couple of other folks have noted, the boot time seems to improve once it goes back in the case. At least that's my perception - I didn't do any scientific timing.

I just made sure the blue wire was bang on 8cm and kept it as far apart from the yellow as I could.

Great result. I'll be using these from now on.

 

[trippy86]

nice, glad worked well for you. the last 10 consoles i have done all booth within 15 or 20 seconds but mostly boot within 8 seconds. make sure you have a good solder joint and if possible insulate the wires, did the trick for me

 

[tingedace]

Actually, since posting that I did a 3rd slim that wasn't quite as successful. It was another one of these ones that seemed to boot quite quickly on the bench but once it was buttoned up it the boot times were very erratic.

I could have opened it all up again just to move the blue wire onto a different pad but.....
I just couldn't be arsed (especially as I thought it likely wouldn't improve)

What do you use to insulate your wires?

 

[trippy86]

check my topic http://www.team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79521

i would also put a decent layer of insulation tape on the bottom of the dvd drive where the coolrunner would be, my tip of the day

Insulate, Insulate, Insulate

worst case, at least you rule out insulation problems

 

[tingedace]

I hadn't seen that, thanks!

Is it all the wires you're insulating? Or just the blue and yellow that go to the bottom of the board?

 

[trippy86]

i insulate everywhere i have add components, can never have too much insulation

thx for the rep

 

[DreamZ]

ive found that adding a little over 50cm works fine, i had a long bit of blue cable left from a blue wire i cut to make alt hana point for a phat and added it onto another bit of blue wire i had lol.

its about 70-80 cms with some tape and solder holding it together. i dont get boots over 3 green glitches. mainly instant. i can post a vid also if you like

 

[trippy86]

ive found that adding a little over 50cm works fine, i had a long bit of blue cable left from a blue wire i cut to make alt hana point for a phat and added it onto another bit of blue wire i had lol.

its about 70-80 cms with some tape and solder holding it together. i dont get boots over 3 green glitches. mainly instant. i can post a vid also if you like

yes please, that would be great
thx