Savage, big reps to you, and Mysterion thank you for the information as well. I updated to 1.91 as part of this whole process but ran it from USB which failed, as like every other time. Updated to 1.91 as savage suggested, put in retail Madden, update commences (with hard drive taken off, and put back on). I must have tried 4-5 hours of different OFW's and searching all forums, when 1.91 and NOT using usb was the answer.
Thanks Savage and Mysterion.