RGH updated timming files for slim?

WestCoastConsoles

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Ill add my few cents I have done nearly 30 slims locally and all had optimal boot times from 5-15 seconds. As uber stated they are a marketing gimmick. The install is key. The only bad results I have had is with the matrix glitch board a customer asked me to install got him to pay 20 bucks for the cr. I have had no need for any other timing files than the ones provided.
 

TilVl

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I agree. I have done roughly around 20 and all xbox been awesome boot times.
 

Mthodmn101

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some of us arent as lucky... i have tried everything to get consistent boot times on my slim and nothing has worked...
 

spookyman166

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Ill add my few cents I have done nearly 30 slims locally and all had optimal boot times from 5-15 seconds. As uber stated they are a marketing gimmick. The install is key. The only bad results I have had is with the matrix glitch board a customer asked me to install got him to pay 20 bucks for the cr. I have had no need for any other timing files than the ones provided.
Thank you... You just proved my point...
 

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Bad boot times on slims is down to bad or dodge soldering or bad wire position also noticed if the wires get crushed or kinked they have a dramatic effect on boot times i have done bout 30 installs every one boots instant or under 5 secs.:.not saying i have not had pain making em boot that quick but after messing with wire position and resoldering till i get a really good connection helped me loads
 

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Bad boot times on slims is down to bad or dodge soldering or bad wire position also noticed if the wires get crushed or kinked they have a dramatic effect on boot times i have done bout 30 installs every one boots instant or under 5 secs.:.not saying i have not had pain making em boot that quick but after messing with wire position and resoldering till i get a really good connection helped me loads
No it isnt mate, all those things can make it bad but isnt the cause of erratic boot times, read further back and Ubergeek confirms its different on every slim.

Why do people have to blame someone for something that they dont know the ins and outs?? TX, Gligli, Tiros all these people know this better than anyone and people still moan and have to blame something. I've tried the matrix glitcher and TX coolrunner, both very respectable companys as i have used both before, and to behonest ANYTHING FOR XBOX360 USE TEAM XECUTER!!

And stop f**Kin moaning about something, that wouldnt be here unless these people hadnt kept on trying to achieve, while you were copying your games and playing them on your xbox 360! BECAUSE OF C4EVA.

At the end of the day the Coolrunner gives the best boot times because they spent alot of time making this and are offering somethings that may improve boot times for us, as much as they can but cant be instant everytime. Relax alittle smoke some weed do what ever you do apart from F**KIN MOANING.

P.S

MERRY CHRISTMAS GUYS!!!!!!!!
 
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Ubergeek

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Ill add my few cents I have done nearly 30 slims locally and all had optimal boot times from 5-15 seconds. As uber stated they are a marketing gimmick. The install is key. The only bad results I have had is with the matrix glitch board a customer asked me to install got him to pay 20 bucks for the cr. I have had no need for any other timing files than the ones provided.
Bingo


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and everyone else saying learn it your self. there is a reason i pay these guys are you forgetting that. if i had the time i would.

and if its not the timing files for slims then why would other chip producers give multiple timing for this exact reason. if it is not the timing files then it has to be issues with the chips. i highly doubt that the chips are not built to hand the slims properly

i have over 10 CR chips sitting in-front of me. i have installed 8 on top of that. all my slims have boot irregularity. (all phats work great 1-3 glitch max) i have also purchased the QSB for slim post_out. clearly it is not the hardware i am using. or they have sold me a chip that is ill suited for the slims and should refund me some of my money. I DOUBT THAT. they are going to release timing files.

i just want them to let me know they are working on it. as of now they are making no note that there is a problem or that they are working on it. according to them the QSb for the slims is the fixx all for this problem. ITS NOT.


thanx
shawn
I think you should sell your CR's to an installer who knows what they are doing so you get all your money back. There are many installers here who would be happy to take them off your hands and would also be happy to report successful installs to slims or otherwise.




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I think you should sell your CR's to an installer who knows what they are doing so you get all your money back. There are many installers here who would be happy to take them off your hands and would also be happy to report successful installs to slims or otherwise.




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so u say that im the only installer who has had issues with slims. it takes a 1-2 hours per slim just playing with wires to get good boot times. this fourm is littered with people having issues with slim boot times. Ur not even making a good argument at this point. i payed for a product and i expect good service.
they have always stood by the products and now i feel they are leaving us in the dark with this issue as other company's are addressing it.

Ubergeek please understand i appreciate your opinion you have help a lot of ppl including myself. i just feel that TE inst working on a fix for this. and other chip makers are taking advantage of this. an im stuck with another 6 slims i have to do and its a pain in the a$$ to do. i can do a phat install in under 30 min. slim 2h of wire playing and 30 install.

and to the person who said they have installed 30CR's how many where slims and how many took 2 hours of playing with wires. and u still get the one or 2 random boots 30-90seconds. don't bs me.


once again the phat install is perfect, i have never had a single problem with it. please do not comment on CR's performance on phats. this is only an issue with slims that needs addressed
 
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shawndezy115

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You are forgetting that you are paying for a chip and ready code... The price DOESNT include custom timing files (whether they make a difference or not is irrelevant), and ive personally have 35 Coolrunner in stock, have installed 20 so far, and THROUGH working on the placing of the wires have achieved constant boot times... I suggest you go and learn about interference, inductance, capacitors and DC electricity. Once you understand (some) of the physics behind electronics you will begin to see how you can optimize the wire placement to improve boot times... its not TX selling a ill chip... Its ill knowledge on the installers part.
with the slims ive had some luck with the positioning of the wire... No cutting... I have also noticed that once the dvd drive is in, motherboard is in metal cage, glitch times improved...

Also if you un plug the xbox for 30 seconds and then replug and quickly start up, it will boot almost instantly...

I will try the 3v standby point which might help this...
this is from the Slow Slim Glitch Times ? Possible Fix... thread. seems you also have issues with ur installs. ha ha ha

you dare tell me to lean about electronics when ur willing to try the switching 3.3v standby after they tell you it will harm your xbox? please stop now before you make a bigger a$$ of your self.
thanx
 
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spookyman166

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this is from the Slow Slim Glitch Times ? Possible Fix... thread. seems you also have issues with ur installs. ha ha ha

you dare tell me to lean about electronics when ur willing to try the switching 3.3v standby after they tell you it will harm your xbox? please stop now before you make a bigger a$$ of your self.
thanx

Live and learn mate... Ive spent HOURS trying to perfect it, but, unlike you, ive actually done the second part...

If you note, i was HELPING the scene.... Adding extra knowledge and info... Perhaps i missed that the switching 3.3v damages the consoles, i havent had time to test it yet, but now thanks to you pointing it out, I wont... And of course i have, who hasnt, if you note the name its Reset GLITCH hack... The GLITCH part is the key, a GLITCH by definition is not reliable... So of course it will vary...

Please dont tell me about learning about electronics... The switching 3.3v actually makes perfect sense... See CAPACITORS BLOCK DC... So if you use a switching 3.3v point (Ie only on when the power button is pressed), the capacitors have time to discharge, but ok... you are the "Pr0 H4X0R M0DD3R5"

Slims have been the majority of my installs, ive probably only had 4 phats...

Slims take about an hour to do, and when costing it out, i have included a generous time for my labour...
Playing with the wire shouldnt take you hours.. should take 15 20min MAX if YOU knew anything about electronics. If you did you would know which points to avoid, how close should the wire be, how flux, solder, even heating and even Timing of heating, all plays a role in constant boot times... Please stop digging a hole for yourself... if you had to take 2 hours to find a good placement for the wire then there is something wrong, seriously wrong... Its only 50CM.

Again learn something about the things in my previous post and your installs will take no longer than an hour... if you dont wanna spend time to do a job properly then you shouldnt risk other peoples consoles AND charge them a premium (I am willing to bet that you make no less than 60USD for your "labour") if it takes 2 hours to install your coolrunner on a slim then you are still making $30 an hour, which is still more per hour, than what A LOT (i dont know a percentage) of Americans make...

So just go and learn about those things, and you will see which passives you need to avoid, which passives dont matter, which soldering iron to use etc...


EDIT: after reading the reason why its bad to use switch, its actually very little risk, but risk never the less, so an alternative will be needed...
 
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so u say that im the only installer who has had issues with slims. it takes a 1-2 hours per slim just playing with wires to get good boot times. this fourm is littered with people having issues with slim boot times. Ur not even making a good argument at this point. i payed for a product and i expect good service.
they have always stood by the products and now i feel they are leaving us in the dark with this issue as other company's are addressing it.

Ubergeek please understand i appreciate your opinion you have help a lot of ppl including myself. i just feel that TE inst working on a fix for this. and other chip makers are taking advantage of this. an im stuck with another 6 slims i have to do and its a pain in the a$$ to do. i can do a phat install in under 30 min. slim 2h of wire playing and 30 install.

and to the person who said they have installed 30CR's how many where slims and how many took 2 hours of playing with wires. and u still get the one or 2 random boots 30-90seconds. don't bs me.


once again the phat install is perfect, i have never had a single problem with it. please do not comment on CR's performance on phats. this is only an issue with slims that needs addressed
2 hours install ? Dont quit your day job.

I can do a slim in 15 minutes start to finish with 10 second boot times every time - the same as thousands of others.

And of course you will see lots of posts with people having problems - this is a SUPPORT forum for people who have problems. If everyone of the users who had bought the CR for the slim had issues you would see THOUSANDS of posts every day. I also see many posts with people who have problems with flashing firmware - does that mean the x360usb pro or the ck3i is not working ? No it means that the user is doing something wrong and he comes here to get help with his problem.

Just because a small percentage of people have issues doesn't mean there is something wrong with the hardware - it only means two things

1. that you are doing something incorrectly
2. that you are the unluckiest person in the world

We don't need to work on a fix - a fix isnt needed. The other chip makers are fixing the sh*t they didn't do in the first place that we DID do. All this talk about timings - do you actually think members of our team don't test sh*t with Tiros directly and that the inventor of the hack says that the current timing files are the best you're gonna get ? You could go and argue with him I guess if you think you know better.

if you want to believe the marketing spin from the other guys - go for it. Sell your CR's and go use theirs - that is my answer to you in directly because you dont seem to accept that you are not following all the methods and troubleshooting advice that has been presented to you and you are not accepting that you are at fault here and not the hard3ware and there is nothing i can do to change your mind so why should i bother ?
 

shawndezy115

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Its only 50CM.

Again learn something about the things in my previous post and your installs will take no longer than an hour... if you dont wanna spend time to do a job properly then you shouldnt risk other peoples consoles AND charge them a premium (I am willing to bet that you make no less than 60USD for your "labour") if it takes 2 hours to install your coolrunner on a slim then you are still making $30 an hour, which is still more per hour, than what A LOT (i dont know a percentage) of Americans make...
my point is that i do charge a premiuim rate $50 per install. my point is that i charge that bc i am good at what i do and i give a perfect console back. its hard for me to do that with slims. im a perfectionist thats why it takes me so long. one bad boot and it pisses me off.

it not 50cm's. my console range from 36.5cm to 48 normally. and it takes me a while to get it to boot right. to find that perfect size. and it still isn't perfect.

something is missing from the install on slims and myself and many others believe its the timing files.
 

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this is from the Slow Slim Glitch Times ? Possible Fix... thread. seems you also have issues with ur installs. ha ha ha

you dare tell me to lean about electronics when ur willing to try the switching 3.3v standby after they tell you it will harm your xbox? please stop now before you make a bigger a$$ of your self.
thanx
With respect its you who is making an ass of himself here.

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something is missing from the install on slims and myself and many others believe its the timing files.
thats because you and these others dont have a clue what you are talking about, so just leave this to the pro's who do.

go get a book and learn about inducters ffs - then come back when you can contribute something meaningful.

while you are at it read about the slim hack from the CREATOR of it - i.e. that it isn't and never will be "perfect" - every slim console is different and the timings will be random. its like the zephyrs some just wont glitch no matter what. get this into your head and move on.
 

Mthodmn101

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i will gladly let you take a look at mine and get the boot up time down to 10 seconds, since you are so confident ;)
 

Ubergeek

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i will gladly let you take a look at mine and get the boot up time down to 10 seconds, since you are so confident ;)
I helped design it and do this for a living - so of course im f##king confident. :facepalm:

there a few hundred other pro's on the forums who could do it for you too.

or are you one of those guys who refuses to accept that youve not done something correctly and there is no way someone else could do a better job ?

;)
 

fersy

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2 hours install ? Dont quit your day job.

I can do a slim in 15 minutes start to finish with 10 second boot times every time - the same as thousands of others.
i assume you mean the soldering part because surely dumping 2 or 3 nands, creating your xell image getting your keys and creating and flashing a fb image would surely take longer than 15 mins not even counting the soldering?