WARNING TO ALL XBOX 1.6 users!!!

[deshman]

TEAM Xecuter is deleting my posts about a possible threat against your xbox 1.6 when using their modchips!!!

In a v1.6 xbox, one of the data signals on the motherboard (LFRAME) is short circuited to ground to let a modchip boot. This puts a strain on the xbox electronics whenever the modchip is operating. Although the modchips work, the life expectancy of the xbox may be shortened by doing this - much like driving your car around with the engine always running at 6000rpm (the car still goes, but the engine will get warn out much more quickly). A resistor can be used to prevent the problem of installing a modchip, and extend the life of the xbox.


A more detailed description:
The bios on a v1.6 xbox is loaded from the LPC bus, the same bus that the modchip uses. Therefore there will be two different bios (modchip and normal MS bios) both trying to load at the same time onto the same wires. v1.0-1.5 xboxs used separate wires to load the MS bios compared to the modchip and so this wasn’t a problem.

PLZ BE AWARE OF THIS!!!

HERE IS THE LINK TO xbox-scene
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=305938

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!

 

[Shortacid]

This is old news, everyone knows about it, they even tried to release a bios recently supporting lframe code, but it was having cold reboot problems so they pulled the cod e for another day. They keep deleting your posts b/c you like so many others keep coming on and starting these new threads. We have all read the X-S article also.

 

[Martin C]

I already PM'd you as to why I removed your posts. As I explained, it's because you flooded the forums with the same question.

Don't accuse anyone of 'covering up' stuff. *You* have been warned.

Martin

 

[deshman]

lol

so what am i spossed to do about the dead xbox that i have sitting in my living room now because of the X3???

 

[Dragonis.Lou]

maybe you should of researched before installing the chips to see if there were problems with 1.6 xbox's and X3 chips. If you constantly run your car at 6000 rpm's and it prematurely breaks down, will you blame the car company or yourself?

 

[Catalyst]

I heard that this wasn't a legitamite or provable problem. I can't read the xbox-scene link because I'm at work (stupid firewall )


Anyway... I'd rather run an xbox the way I want to for 2 years, then run it half-assed for 4.

 

[Martin C]

My 1.6 has been running with an X3 for months - not a day's problem.

Instead of blaming the chip, how about admitting the fact that you more than likely screwed the Xbox when you fitted the chip?

Martin

 

[Catalyst]

My 1.6 has been running with an X3 for months - not a day's problem.

Instead of blaming the chip, how about admitting the fact that you more than likely screwed the Xbox when you fitted the chip?

Martin

I figured as much. I never have had a problem... my firends haven't had any problems... and whenever I meet someone who does... they usually have a really crappy install!

So this LFrame thing is a bunch of crap?

Good to know.

Besides... isn't the BIOS read once into the RAM and that's it. That's why you can change flash bios banks while running. The xbox only reads it to boot.... that's why it's called Basic Input Output System.

It doesn't make sense that the xbox is trying to read the bios the whole time it's running...

 

[Martin C]

It's more to do with the voltage down the 5v against the MCPX - speculation is that it can reduce the life of it.

We'll have to wait n see..

Martin

 

[Skyzar]

"[3294]
- fixed: Forgot to remove some lframe stuff in 3293, this is now completely removed again (should fix reboot issues in evox and xbmc)"

When you say wait and see...do you mean teamxecuter wont be trying to get the lframe stuff to work in future bios?

 

[Martin C]

Meant only in the fact that I'll wait and see if any long term damage is caused to the Xbox...

The LFRAME stuff is still ongoing!!

Martin

 

[Skyzar]

Good to know.

Guess my xbox will take a break, at least until its sorted out.

I was wondering if i hold the power button, so the chip shows up as red [not on], is this still causing damage or is it not affecting the xbox in any way?

 

[Martin C]

If you're that worried (hell, I'm not!), just remove the chip for now, or disconnect the d0/lan/hdd connector from the chip.

Martin

 

[kowrip]

A while back I read a post where somebody suggested adding a resistor to that part of the circuit. Has anybody had any experience with this ? I've installed about 8 or 9 X3 chips in 1.6 Xboxes and there have been no major problems except for a couple of minor issues due to my stupidity, which I quickly fixed.

 

[mmicrosysm]

Let’s see you buy a modification device to circumvent a protection scheme designed by the manufacture to protect its assets and you’re pissed because it killed your Xbox over the long term. Ya gets whats coming to you, as we are all aware that this could lead to system failure down the road and are willing to pay that price. Heck you want to complain go mod a PS2 v12 and 3 weeks later you may not have a working DVD drive.

In addition, if it was that big of an epidemic we would surly hear more of this type of complaints. If anything it’s probably the cheat board and components that M$ used to create there Ma$ter piece O’ crap v1.6. and not the chip manufacture fault.

 

[Skyzar]

yeah but i see no sense in not working towards finding a solution for this, and many people are saying its a scare-tactic by rivals, but that thread on xbox scene was started years ago, and it identified many chips that had this problem, and the smartxx only works now because they added something else to their modchip. Earlier versions when the lframe stuff came out, were still affected by it apparently. And loads of mod chip developers are addressing the problem, which to be fair is probbly a problem if they put effort to fix it, but no doubt there are loads of other problems that will cause long term damage.
But since we identified one problem, shouldnt we work at it to fix it. [by we i mean you clueless about electronics which is why i do not want to add that resistor and cut the lframe thing]

At least team-xecuter have tried it in a recent release, and are apparently still trying to solve it for the x3, and since people are actually testing to see if they are actually fixing it, they have to actually fix it when they say they have.

Even if it is just a scare tactic [its got quite a number of people who have actually read it quite weirded out, which is why apparently some people were banned/posts&topics deleted] they might aswell fix it to shut everyone up, since the modchip bios is practically perfect anyway -- the bios support topics are kinda dying down, and the requests are kinda crappy...like extra features in the config live...which are already in various dashboards....So please actually fix it, and take pride in finding other problems that might decrease the lifespan of the xbox and fixing them.

I know people say whats the point, xbox360 is coming out, well not everyone has the money to buy that or even want to buy that, imo if i was going to buy one it would probbly be ps3....if they deliver it right....killzone 2 looked really super-cool, but i want to see gameplay >__< ..err anyway what...oh yeah...good luck

Fix it ple

 

[Necrophiliac]

Is a new bios in the works which addresses/fixes this LFRAME issue?

 

[Hadoken]

So is it only xecuter chips that do this?

Where are you X ? can you shed some light on this subject -
Ps : deshman saying "Die Xecuter" on the Xbox-Scene Forums is a really foolish thing to do...

The Dev work that Team Xecuter has pumped out into the Xbox modding community as a whole is unparralelled - So think before you speak.

 

[djbass]

Well, I've had mine in my v1.6 box for 8 months and counting, no issues yet.

They've said that they'll continue to work on a software solution, but not because they think there's an issue, more just as a placebo.

 

[Martin C]

I think the Xbox is more likely to 'die' through other causes before the MCPX issue would ever become apparent.

Martin