When did the length of wire ever affect lpc rebuild?

AEgawd

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I'm an electrician and im telling you that the extra amount of wire used in the pic is insignificant. once voltage is applied to a circuit, it is felt throughout the circuit. there is no "travel time." that being said, you would have to have an awful lot of wire to cause a voltage drop.
also, Ohm's law is E=IR. stop filling peoples head with BS, it will only make them and you more ignorant. also, the theory on EMF interference could be a possibility but there would have to be a very high frequency source to screw something up and if that were the case, the XB wouldnt be the only thing not working correctly.
its a bad solder job, plain and simple. thats why the mod doesnt work. or its a chip that didnt come from an official seller. or in a very slim chance, if all the planets are aligned right and the moon is full, its a bad chip.
 

AEgawd

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no you said "V=IR." voltage is NEVER represented as "v" in that equation. its always "E." so you are still incorrect, from a certain point of view.
 

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AEgawd said:
no you said "V=IR." voltage is NEVER represented as "v" in that equation. its always "E." so you are still incorrect, from a certain point of view.
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/Sample_Projects/Ohms_Law/ohmslaw.html

http://jersey.uoregon.edu/vlab/Voltage/

http://www.ohmslaw.com/

http://www.csgnetwork.com/ohmslaw.html

Shall I carry on..... NEVER is such a bold word!




For the current flowing in the circuit, Ohm's Law and Kirchhoff's Rules give the relation between emf E and current I as

E = IR + Ir
 
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AEgawd

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thats because those tutorials are written for newbs. go to an accredited school that teaches it and they they wouldnt use "V."
but i digress, "never" is a bold word. i wont argue on symantics about this equation any longer. =)
back on subject; its a bad soldering job.
 

tonylott

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AEgawd said:
thats because those tutorials are written for newbs. go to an accredited school that teaches it and they they wouldnt use "V."
but i digress, "never" is a bold word. i wont argue on symantics about this equation any longer. =)
back on subject; its a bad soldering job.
OK..... Thanks for the banter anyway...You are OK....
 
AEgawd said:
also, the theory on EMF interference could be a possibility but there would have to be a very high frequency source to screw something up and if that were the case, the XB wouldnt be the only thing not working correctly.
its a bad solder job, plain and simple. thats why the mod doesnt work. or its a chip that didnt come from an official seller. or in a very slim chance, if all the planets are aligned right and the moon is full, its a bad chip.
the question asked wasn't whether this was a good or bad soldering job, but if the length of the wire could cause a problem. Its not even an X3 chip --- so any argument in here is mostly academic anyway.

Personally, length of wire and resistance appears bogus to me - .5V drop seem a lot over that short distance (could calculate the resistance if we knew some more facts). I still think the most plausible problem would be EMF interference - coming form the power supply. Other devices should not be affected by that, because the Xbox is (in theory) shielded BUT that wouldn't restrict the high freq interference internally in the Xbox.

Not our problem - its Alladins (I think it was their chip). From an X3 perspective, keep the wires short, and make sure you have a clean solder joint.
 

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AEgawd

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already covered...
AEgawd said:
the extra amount of wire used in the pic is insignificant

if EMF were the case then why wouldnt the data being xfer'd through the IDE cable or anything else connected with wires inside the XB be corrupted? EMF is a stretch. its a bad solder job, PERIOD!!!
 

zikronix

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thats because those tutorials are written for newbs. go to an accredited school that teaches it and they they wouldnt use "V."
I would like to think NASA...you know the people that have two rovers for over a year cruzin on mars...the people that were still getting radio signals from voyager 1 you know the thing launched in 1977 that still ****ing works...and they plan on contacting it in 2020...yes that voyager 1....Im simply thinking they prolly know what they are talking about when it comes to electonics. Im thinking your the newb becuase if nasa says its that its "V" and thats for newbs. Then why are you here on teamxecuter forums arguing over whats this and that...shouldnt you be checking on voyager or something.


http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/Sample_Projects/Ohms_Law/ohmslaw.html

would prolly seem to know that there talkign about
 

threeballspin

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zikronix said:
...Im simply thinking they prolly know what they are talking about when it comes to electonics.
That's a funny word.
 

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AEgawd

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did you read the top of that page?

AEgawd said:
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Teachers
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The defense rests at this time...
 

zikronix

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AEgawd said:
did you read the top of that page?



The defense rests at this time...

dood it doesnt fing matter its ****ing nasa. Why would they teach somethign that isnt correct.
 

AEgawd

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in the case of where "V" is used in lieu of "E" is all an arguement of semantics. i thought i had i had already covered that, but i guessed you missed that part. go read post #25 then get back on the actual subject of this thread as i had already done prior to your banter.
 

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How about a mod just deletes this thread or at least all the unrelated crap thats made it such a chore to actually read and answer the original post. How old are some of you people to spend so much time proving something so pointless.
 

shagga

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Thanks Tony :-D

I'm 26 but even I can see a pointless discussion when I read it. ;-)