Will not Glitch Till Eject is Pressed

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elxero

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My friends Jasper will not boot up/glitch unless I press "eject" at just the right time.

What i've done so far

Jasper 256mb big block nand
Dash version 14699

Read nand 3 times with Jtag tool via Nand-X.

Found 17 unreadable blocks all three nands match no difference between them. see log below.

Looking for usb interface device
Flash Config: 0x008A3020
Block Size: 128KB Block Limits: 0x000000..0x003FFF
File: Nand.bin
Reading
Error: 250 reading block 21F0
Error: 210 reading block 21F1
Error: 210 reading block 21F2
Error: 210 reading block 21F3
Error: 210 reading block 21F4
Error: 210 reading block 21F5
Error: 210 reading block 21F6
Error: 210 reading block 21F7
Error: 250 reading block 24C8
Error: 250 reading block 29F8
Error: 210 reading block 29F9
Error: 210 reading block 29FA
Error: 210 reading block 29FB
Error: 210 reading block 29FC
Error: 210 reading block 29FD
Error: 210 reading block 29FE
Error: 210 reading block 29FF
3FFF
Press any key to continue . . .

Read the nand with 360flash tool to see if there were
bad blocks. it doesnt show any... I suppsose if they are
not readable then they arent bad?

Used multibuilder 0.7 to creat ECC and used Jtag tool to write ECC.
Programed Glitch Chip.
Installed glicher chip.

created nandflash.bin with multibuilder 0.7 for firware 14699 and used Jtag tool to write it to system, did not see any write errors.

I can't get the system to glitch.

Went back and looked multibuilder again went through and built yet an other nand and read the instructions which said.

Take the nandflash.bin and xenon.elf put it on root of usb,
boot with eject and let it write....

I put the files on usb went back to xbox and booted with eject system seemd to boot into xell (black and white screen version) right away.

unpluged all cables waited a while and tried again.

system only booted when i hit eject after powering on.

I need to do this all the time now for it to work.

installed xex menu.
installed FSD
installed DashLaunch and edited ini

system will not glitch unless its allowed to sit for about 1-2 mins and then pressing eject.

anyone has any clues?

Messed up some of the supplied wires so using similar.. could wire lengths and placement cause this?

What do you guys think?
 
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elxero

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ok will post a pic soon gotta run off to work :(

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Martin C said:
For bad blocks, ignore everything over 0xFFF.
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hm not quite sure what that means lol i know it sounds stupid.
 
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elxero

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dgenx said:
post good clear pics of your install..
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sadly I dont have a great camera this about the best I can do with this blackberry crap camera.. i've check all points and adjacent points for shorts.. there arent any I've moved the wires arround and finally gave in and got a new cool runner and a matrix glitcher now the system wont glitch at all no matter what I do. I'm bout ready to throw in the towel hrumph....

if i were to just flash back the original nand read and removed fsd and xex will the system be back to stock? I have no clue how to removed dashlaunch.
 
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dgenx said:
post good clear pics of your install..
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so as you see i've done a few installs again all continuity tests show no shorts even with the orange wire point C3B2 I know it looks like its shorting but it really isnt, nothing is shorting anywhere. so im clue less here, this jasper is a true pita. :S any thoughts?
 
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elxero

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Mickey3177 said:
As Martin said, just build your images and flash it, have you done that?

Edit: Try using RawFlash v4
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ya this is my third Jtag I did two of mine (one regular xenon Jtag one glitch falcon) and now doing a buds jasper 256mb, I went through the whole process, did everthing I was supposed to do and got weird results. just check the first post you'll see what I mean. I can't make sence out of it. The thing wont glitch no matter how i set up the wires or which chip i used two cool runners one matrix. nothing seems to work.. I got it to glitch when ever i hit "eject" at just the right time earlier but now that I've got a new cool runner and a matrix it wont glitch at all now. check install wires every thing accounted for no short circutes so I'm lost.. I'm not looking to see if there are new timing files for the cool runner out now..
 
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elxero

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Martin C said:
I don't see any cap between A and GND. Have you tried one yet?
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well tried it.. with all chips... no joy... I think this one is just special like that.

Guess I'll take it appart and re-route my wiring see if that helps any... really regretting redoing it this time.. lest last time I could have gotten it glitching if i hit eject
now i get zip lol
 
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elxero

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Martin C said:
I don't see any cap between A and GND. Have you tried one yet?
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Well, as it turns out, the only caps i had here were the ones that came with the matrix :facepalm: those are 220pf/0.022uf and the cool runner needs a 680pf correct?
so I just trippled them up for a total of 660pf, and the box seems to boot with more consistensy. I've had several successful boots some taking "forever" others happening faster and then some times it hangs for an eternity. I dont want to give it to him like that. I've seen some tutorials where people use two 680pf caps :eek2: and even one 680 in series on the blue wire (i tried a 220 with the blue wire and the green light on the cool runner woulnt flash at all) I don't have any more caps so I guess I'll have to wait. All I can do for now is try re-routing wires again. I'll report back.
 
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elxero

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Martin C said:
660pF isn't enough. You want 68nF, or 2x100nF in series.

If you're getting something out of 660pF, then 68nF should sort it.
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Hm I guess I'll go hunting... but you said two 100nf in series? caps in series half's the value so that would equate to 50nf not so?... hm then again i suppose that would be correct considering that I want to get as close to 68nf.
 
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Yep, if you were installing RGH stuff as I was before TX released theirs, you'll probably have a few 100nFs kicking about! 50nF is close enough to 68nF to test the theory at least.
 
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elxero

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Martin C said:
Yep, if you were installing RGH stuff as I was before TX released theirs, you'll probably have a few 100nFs kicking about! 50nF is close enough to 68nF to test the theory at least.
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wow you were so right! I went digging around my guitar and RC model supplies and found a hand full of a whole range of different size and types of caps. found that .1uf 100nf cap you spoke of and realized i had a much smaller version of it.. I doubled it up in series and stuck it on there. lo and behold much more consistent boots! Then it hit me.. some people are using two 68nf caps to improve boot times. thats 136nf and i've got 100nf right there so I went ahead and tried one cap by it's self I figured it couldn't hurt.. IT WORKED! and quicker too! wow I can breathe much better now. All i have to do is clean up my solder on the chip but Im beat I'll leave the system unplugged and sitting still tonight and takle that tomorrow for now i'm extremely happy with the results thus far! I was fighting with this thing for almost a week and a half now! thanks so much man Martin!

now all i need to make sence of is why I can't restore his avatars (some how the $$ystemupdate folder isnt being detected on the thumb drive- i dunno if i selected the correct options in the dash launch ini file, i've done it so many times over now trying different combinations nothing gets it to work out)

for now though its time to rest up! again thanks so much for taking the time to look into my pita jasper! I think my bud will be extatic! :):D as i am right now :biggrin:
 
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(some how the $$ystemupdate folder isnt being detected on the thumb drive- i dunno if i selected the correct options in the dash launch ini file
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It sounds like you didn't block MS updates. Run Dashlaunch again and disable them. No need to edit the ini file this time around as you will be prompted with setting choices one at a time.
 
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elxero

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Krafter said:
It sounds like you didn't block MS updates. Run Dashlaunch again and disable them. No need to edit the ini file this time around as you will be prompted with setting choices one at a time.
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yeah sorry thats what i mean really, i just press A when it asks if i want to edit my settings and just go through each option to select A or B for yes or no, I've tried it with blocking and without blocking, (with $sytemupdate and with $$ystemupdate even doing $systemUPdate and $$ystemUPdate nothing works) for some reason the bugger wont budge! so i scoured the net looking for which settings I should pick with out much luck, some people have totally different settings from others so im not sure whats correct or not. If you dont mind, could you list what you've got your settings at? I'm using the latest dashlaunch 2.27 i think.
 
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I can't as my TV isn't available atm and I don't now them all from the top of my head and to lazy to look them up lol. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but you should only worry about blocking MS updates and MS Live DNS. Once you run Dashlaunch again, these choices will be clear and easy to set. The others are just a matter of preference.

edit: in the mean time you can rename the folder to $Systemupdate and I bet it will work. :)
 
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