X3 2666

savo07

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should have posted here....

HOLLY SH$T. THATS ALL I CAN SAY.
New bios is awsome.


TEAM X. YOU ARE and always have been Number 1. Thank you for reminding the competition of this fact again.
 
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djbass

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los93sol1 said:
Just wondering if any of the official devs/mods/somebody who has the 2666 build can confirm whether fat16/32 support is only for flashing in X3CL or it if will still be there even once an xbe is launched...like how IGR still works after a game is launched...I am doubting that it will stay there because of the whole multitasking issues and I am not quite sure how IGR manages to still work, but anyways, if somebody who has the release installed on their xbox could confirm that would be awesome. W00t! Can't wait to test drive it myself!
Although the xbox doesn't support multitasking I think you'll find the BIOS runs seperate to all other code on the xbox, it is the interface between any software and the hardware of the machine (Basic Input Output System, incase you didn't know what it actually stands for).

IGR likely works the following way, everytime a button is pressed on the gamepad it generates an interrupt or message of somesort indicating to the BIOS that a button was pressed and which one, the BIOS then passes this information onto the software, so the BIOS can intercept any button presses before the program does (this brings concerns I suppose as to whether the EEPROM reset feature is disabled whlie running software, there's plenty of games that use all four buttons pressed at the same time).

In theory the BIOS could actually provide the missing fat16/fat32 support but I don't think there's anything in the XDK that will allow you to work with fat16/fat32 formatted drives, unless someone wrote a library to do so (and when I think about it the XDK doesn't implicitly support the X3LCD either, yet clearly functionality was added via a library).
 

catogtp

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Actually IGR is controlled via the xbe that is launched.
The bios monitors launching of an XBE and it dynamically patches it to add the igr code. If things have changed(that info is old) then i apologize.

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phyushin

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the new x3 bios will b saweet... any ideas why my x3 doesnt notice i have 1959 an jus says unknown pm me if so
 

threeballspin

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Does anyone have any idea of when it will be released?
 

phyushin

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whered u get an x3 tshirt ?
 

SchOX

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Yes, I have an idea!
My idea is to wait and see...

Shure there is loads of cool stuff in this new unreleased bios, but I can't see what all the fuzz is about, x3-1959 works fine...
 

threeballspin

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Wow, aren't you the master-question-answerer. No need to be a smart ass, bud. Just asking a harmless Q. By the way, learn to spell SURE.
 

djbass

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catogtp said:
Actually IGR is controlled via the xbe that is launched.
The bios monitors launching of an XBE and it dynamically patches it to add the igr code. If things have changed(that info is old) then i apologize.
No you're probably right, mine was just a theory.
 

phonix

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Lframe / D0

yes Schox you are right the 1959 bios does work very well!!!! the one thing I am glad xecuter has fixed is the Lframe/D0 issue. There seems to have been a bit of speculation recently that with this bug still in place your 1.6XBOX might not live as long as it could as I think this only affects 1.6 or 1.6b boxes. As I said this has just been speculation but by Xecuter fixing it it does say to me that this could have been an issue?



:cool:
 

Xecuter

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MeWhOeLsE said:
Are the build numbers like actually just the number of build... or is the new one the equivalent to 2.6.6.6 So like Different classes of release... because 700 different versions each assigned a different number... jeez... I really don't think so...
everytime we do a build it goes up +1 :)
 

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zikronix said:
I just find it intresting how a problem that wanst a problem according to team x is now fixed... reffering to the whole holding the voltage low on a 1.6 If this does indeed fix that problem then awesome. But I thought it wasnt a problem? I cant wait to see the new bios it sounds ****ing awesome.
WE dont see it as a problem - but we added it anyway just to calm down the paranoid few
 

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phyushin said:
the new x3 bios will b saweet... any ideas why my x3 doesnt notice i have 1959 an jus says unknown pm me if so
erm maybe you should name the bios then? did you actually read the bios menu options

of course it recognises you have 1959 - try looking at top left of your screen :rolleyes:
 

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phonix said:
yes Schox you are right the 1959 bios does work very well!!!! the one thing I am glad xecuter has fixed is the Lframe/D0 issue. There seems to have been a bit of speculation recently that with this bug still in place your 1.6XBOX might not live as long as it could as I think this only affects 1.6 or 1.6b boxes. As I said this has just been speculation but by Xecuter fixing it it does say to me that this could have been an issue?



:cool:
imho it's speculation and paranoia - we "fixed" as it was requested
 

los93sol1

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djbass said:
Although the xbox doesn't support multitasking I think you'll find the BIOS runs seperate to all other code on the xbox, it is the interface between any software and the hardware of the machine (Basic Input Output System, incase you didn't know what it actually stands for).

IGR likely works the following way, everytime a button is pressed on the gamepad it generates an interrupt or message of somesort indicating to the BIOS that a button was pressed and which one, the BIOS then passes this information onto the software, so the BIOS can intercept any button presses before the program does (this brings concerns I suppose as to whether the EEPROM reset feature is disabled whlie running software, there's plenty of games that use all four buttons pressed at the same time).

In theory the BIOS could actually provide the missing fat16/fat32 support but I don't think there's anything in the XDK that will allow you to work with fat16/fat32 formatted drives, unless someone wrote a library to do so (and when I think about it the XDK doesn't implicitly support the X3LCD either, yet clearly functionality was added via a library).
True, yea I know what BIOS stands for and the raw fundamentals of how it functions, thank you for you information about how IGR works. I guess it doesn't sound like it Fat16/32 support will work past the X3CL, however, I guess it is theoretically possible. I am assuming not though because of your explanation of IGR, I think Fat16/32 support from bios level is going to be just like the wish for in-game FTP (not going to happen, but theoretically possible). Oh well...there is soo many advancements made in this release with 4 more releases projected!!! Everything from Team Xecuter is very very very impressive as always!
 
SchOX said:
Yes, I'll learn to spell English better (så snart du lærer deg å skrive Norsk...) ;)
Speak English damnit ... you can at least use "real" letters :)

I wish I was multilingual - I can order beer in Japan, and in several other non English speaking countries, but thats about it I'm afraid. I am fluent in multiple programming languages - great for talking to a computer, but not so good for talking to another person :(