X3 AND EVOX BIOS

mitpat

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imagine if xecuter locked their bioses so they only worked with xecuter chips and if evox locked theirs so they only worked with evox dashboards

pratically all the other modchips would have to use evox, imagine how damaging that could be :D
 

IvanK

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Well the X3 bios only works on the X3, and I wouldn't be surprised if their next X2 bios only runs on Xecuter chips (for whatever reason). I'd applaud that and think it's a savvy business decision. Then we could see how useful certain free and legal OS's are... :)

Now... would EvoX tie their bios to only launching EvoX? I doubt that'll ever happen; they have no reason to do so; you could probably circumvent it by naming your dash of choice to evoxdash or just launch into your dash after evox boots with minimal inconvenience. Plus, EvoX isn't being enhanced anymore, so what would the point be? As a corollary, they should tie their bios to *their* chip, and let all all of the other chips go without a working 1.6 bios. I think it would help the sales of their chip, having the only non-xecuter 1.6 bios solution, but I doubt it'd happen.

I don't want to characterize the issues between Xecuter and Xodus as bad blood, because that might imply that Xecuter gives a flying fig what Xodus and their userbase think of Xecuter and their products, but I do think after all that has been said and done if Xecuter found an easy way to make their bioses non-functional on the Xenium, et. al. without hurting performance on their Xecuter 2.6s, they'd be inclined to do so.
 

Martin C

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It would be incredibly damaging and stupid to say the least.

The whole idea of chipping your Xbox is to expand its capabilities.

To monopolise in the way you suggested is as bad (if not worse) as the Regional DVD restrictions currently in play.

Remember that not everyone makes a chip / bios /dashboard.

In fact, I believe that NOONE makes all three!

Martin
 

mitpat

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im saying that why don't someone like team xecuter make a partnership with someone like unleashx then they could each advertise each other and make their products work in such a way that you would have have an xecuter chip to run unleashx.

also they could use some sort of detection process to stop people loading the dashboards by renaming them
 
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BillyF

mitpat said:
im saying that why don't someone like team xecuter make a partnership with someone like unleashx then they could each advertise each other and make their products work in such a way that you would have have an xecuter chip to run unleashx.

also they could use some sort of detection process to stop people loading the dashboards by renaming them
Cause they would be lowering themselves to microsofts level of saying we will sell you the hardware but you can only run our software on it, and you would getting hackers trying to hack the X3 to run other software.
 

da_supa_fish

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BillyF said:
Cause they would be lowering themselves to microsofts level of saying we will sell you the hardware but you can only run our software on it, and you would getting hackers trying to hack the X3 to run other software.
so true it's just like when ppl try to clone the chips
 

gamersha794

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i think that they should only restrict the x2 bios to not work on the the Xenium, there are plenty of other bios's out there like evox and well take a look at the list on xbins.

i do not mind the xenium as a chip but rather i disaprove of the lies they spread in saying the OS is a replacement to a hacked bios
 

Aq

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Playing abgx verified Black Ops or not

Can you play a stealth passed and verified backup?

Or do we need to wait for a later release of firmware
 

bigwater

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Re: Playing abgx verified Black Ops or not

As long as it's SSv2 and you dash is below 12611 you will probably be ok.

Time will be the true test.

Edit: Black OPs doesn't have 2.5 checks so it should be ok on any firmware providing it is SSv2 and passes all verification.
 

Anybody

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Re: Playing abgx verified Black Ops or not

How can you tell if a game has the AP2.5 checks on it?
 

CamaroZ28

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Re: Playing abgx verified Black Ops or not

Edit: Black OPs doesn't have 2.5 checks so it should be ok on any firmware providing it is SSv2 and passes all verification.[/quote]

How do you know if it has the AP check or not because i would like to now ?
 

Sentinel007

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Re: Playing abgx verified Black Ops or not

killerxclub said:
Edit: Black OPs doesn't have 2.5 checks so it should be ok on any firmware providing it is SSv2 and passes all verification.
How do you know if it has the AP check or not because i would like to now ?[/quote]

Im guessing Kinect games will have it and then random games to catch you out, only way you'll find out is if you try to boot the game and it doesnt work... not something any of us would really want to try i think lol
 

CamaroZ28

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Re: Playing abgx verified Black Ops or not

Im guessing Kinect games will have it and then random games to catch you out, only way you'll find out is if you try to boot the game and it doesnt work... not something any of us would really want to try i think lol[/quote]

HAHA nice one.
So black ops does not have the new dashboard on the disk and does not have the AP check on it so it should be just fine to play without it crippling my xbox right guis?
 

Sentinel007

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Re: Playing abgx verified Black Ops or not

killerxclub said:
Im guessing Kinect games will have it and then random games to catch you out, only way you'll find out is if you try to boot the game and it doesnt work... not something any of us would really want to try i think lol
HAHA nice one.
So black ops does not have the new dashboard on the disk and does not have the AP check on it so it should be just fine to play without it crippling my xbox right guis?[/quote]

Yeh I've been playing Black Ops on Live since launch day and im fine, doesnt have any AP25 checks and boots fine from disc and hdd ;)
 

pgreen50

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Re: Playing abgx verified Black Ops or not

If a game has AP25 checks can we still play it offline?
 

t0il3t

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Re: Playing abgx verified Black Ops or not

polexian said:
If a game has AP25 checks can we still play it offline?
it will not even boot on the new dashboard.
 

Sentinel007

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Re: Playing abgx verified Black Ops or not

MrPete1985 said:
polexian said:
If a game has AP25 checks can we still play it offline?
it will not even boot on the new dashboard.
What he said with added content..when you stick the disc in it will load the play disc\ picture of for instance fable 3 but when you press A to load the game IT WILL NOT PAY because of AP25.

also for the record may i say Assassins Creed: Brotherhood is AP25 ... new game now found to have this check !!!