hi i installed an x3 in an 1.6 xbox and the xbox boots twice and gets a red/orange flash. even when i take the chip off i get that as well. I ve checked for solder splashes....what else could be the problem?
X3 install boot 2x RED ORANGE FLASH
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Firstly.
After you have installed the chip you should never take the chip out, in my opinion thats a big no no, not until you have invistagated what else could be the problem first.
Anyhow you have supplied no information, but i will suggest that you take out the switch that comes with executer3, and plug the yellow power cable stright into mobo, and see if you get a the cromwell flash bios screen and no fraggin, if you still get fraggin after you try this, then it can only be a bad install and check your solider points 3 times and if its a lpc rebuild double check those points 3 times and then another 3 times.
good luck..
After you have installed the chip you should never take the chip out, in my opinion thats a big no no, not until you have invistagated what else could be the problem first.
Anyhow you have supplied no information, but i will suggest that you take out the switch that comes with executer3, and plug the yellow power cable stright into mobo, and see if you get a the cromwell flash bios screen and no fraggin, if you still get fraggin after you try this, then it can only be a bad install and check your solider points 3 times and if its a lpc rebuild double check those points 3 times and then another 3 times.
good luck..
da_supa_fish
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ya as much as it sucks the most common cause of a frag is a bad install. it can look totally perfect but the smallest thing can cause a probleme espically when you have to rebuild an lpc.
Arghh
Dude when it comes to soldering your chip, you are pretty much on your own here, its pointless offerring any help on this as it could lead you down the wrong path, my honest oppinion if you are getting in to de-soldering and re-installing the chip 3 times or 4 times over i think you better go see an installer as you are liable to cause even more damge then good.
if you are going to continue please make sure you know what your doing, xbox chipping going wrong f**ks your confedence and propably your xbox..
take stock.. and try and find an installer..
sorry i cant help further.
Dude when it comes to soldering your chip, you are pretty much on your own here, its pointless offerring any help on this as it could lead you down the wrong path, my honest oppinion if you are getting in to de-soldering and re-installing the chip 3 times or 4 times over i think you better go see an installer as you are liable to cause even more damge then good.
if you are going to continue please make sure you know what your doing, xbox chipping going wrong f**ks your confedence and propably your xbox..
take stock.. and try and find an installer..
sorry i cant help further.
cubanboy10
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Frustration + BenQ + Burned Games + 1020
Okay... Second try at flashing a drive involved a Halo Edition xbox 360 with HDMI output... Just what the doctor ordered.
Flash went perfect, console played fine this entire week (with retail discs mind you).
Well, I decided to try a burnt game. Game read fine, shot right off the dashboard and into the game, perfect. Well, about 5 minutes into the game, the screen got all nasty and looked like what happens just before a PC game crashes, all kinds of weird squares on the screen. At this time the controls were unresponsive and the xbox was frozen. At any rate, we had all green lights up until this point, and no problem with heat. I thought, what the hell, this burnt stuff is kind of ghetto, maybe i just need to restart the console. Console started back up, and I was greeted with 3 blinking red rings. Sending error code 1020, apparently an unknown hardware problem.
I'm angry enough to rip my hair out, and I don't even know what I'm doing wrong that I've destroyed a DVD drive and now, this motherboard, apparently. If someone could shine some light on this, or offer their services to look at it, I'd be really indebted. (Live in south eastern ohio)
I had recently (last week) just given this xbox a RRoD or x-clamp fix, to be replaced with screws and washers. I'm pretty sure I did it correctly as the console played fine and non stop for an entire week without any heat issues.
So, now I am left with a xbox without HDMI output that has a broken DVD drive, and another xbox that has HDMI output, but has a hardware problem. (REALLY hoping to have HDMI output from a console)
I dearly hope someone can help me, thanks in advance.
Okay... Second try at flashing a drive involved a Halo Edition xbox 360 with HDMI output... Just what the doctor ordered.
Flash went perfect, console played fine this entire week (with retail discs mind you).
Well, I decided to try a burnt game. Game read fine, shot right off the dashboard and into the game, perfect. Well, about 5 minutes into the game, the screen got all nasty and looked like what happens just before a PC game crashes, all kinds of weird squares on the screen. At this time the controls were unresponsive and the xbox was frozen. At any rate, we had all green lights up until this point, and no problem with heat. I thought, what the hell, this burnt stuff is kind of ghetto, maybe i just need to restart the console. Console started back up, and I was greeted with 3 blinking red rings. Sending error code 1020, apparently an unknown hardware problem.
I'm angry enough to rip my hair out, and I don't even know what I'm doing wrong that I've destroyed a DVD drive and now, this motherboard, apparently. If someone could shine some light on this, or offer their services to look at it, I'd be really indebted. (Live in south eastern ohio)
I had recently (last week) just given this xbox a RRoD or x-clamp fix, to be replaced with screws and washers. I'm pretty sure I did it correctly as the console played fine and non stop for an entire week without any heat issues.
So, now I am left with a xbox without HDMI output that has a broken DVD drive, and another xbox that has HDMI output, but has a hardware problem. (REALLY hoping to have HDMI output from a console)
I dearly hope someone can help me, thanks in advance.
Re: Frustration + BenQ + Burned Games + 1020
Open it up, unplug the fan, and turn it on till you get 2 red lights. Turn it off and wait 20 mins for it to cool, then try it. This happened to my xbox weekly for a few months after my xclap fix and after over heating it enough it hasn't done it again for a long time.
Open it up, unplug the fan, and turn it on till you get 2 red lights. Turn it off and wait 20 mins for it to cool, then try it. This happened to my xbox weekly for a few months after my xclap fix and after over heating it enough it hasn't done it again for a long time.
cubanboy10
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Re: Frustration + BenQ + Burned Games + 1020
Alright, she's cooking as we speak. Hopefully this remedies something.
Alright, she's cooking as we speak. Hopefully this remedies something.
Re: Frustration + BenQ + Burned Games + 1020
That's extremely bad for your 360 as is the XClamp Fix.
The 360 needs to be REFLOWED. You're only damaging the console more.
Find someone with a reflow station and pay them the Usual $50. Check Craigslist. Make sure you see the actual reflow station first. The person I go to in my area has his own website and hes been doing it for years.
Towel Trick+ Xlcamp+Overheating = Even more dead 360. It might run for a little while but chances are it will die again.
That's extremely bad for your 360 as is the XClamp Fix.
The 360 needs to be REFLOWED. You're only damaging the console more.
Find someone with a reflow station and pay them the Usual $50. Check Craigslist. Make sure you see the actual reflow station first. The person I go to in my area has his own website and hes been doing it for years.
Towel Trick+ Xlcamp+Overheating = Even more dead 360. It might run for a little while but chances are it will die again.
xvanwilderx
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- Dec 7, 2003
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Re: Frustration + BenQ + Burned Games + 1020
greendayfreakrct knows what he's talking about. You can read about why NOT to intentionally overheat the 360 (baking trick) here. A lot of people don't know how to do a proper x-clamp fix. Here is a good x-clamp fix you can try. Or you can order Team Hybrid's ultimate / advanced x-clamp fix from their shop here (this is a very good x-clamp fix). Some people who claim to fix RRoD consoles only use a heatgun or just an x-clamp fix. Make sure you get a good reflow (or reball) done using professional equipment. I use the Aoyue 968 hot air rework station with the T-8280 IR preheater / bottom heater. You also of course need thermocouples (to measure temperatures), proper flux, etc. If you really want this console to live for a long time, you need to get it fixed professionally and have it "RRoD proofed" (extra fans, etc.). For this, expect to pay $90+ or have your console die sometime down the road again.greendayfreakrct said:That's extremely bad for your 360 as is the XClamp Fix.
The 360 needs to be REFLOWED. You're only damaging the console more.
Find someone with a reflow station and pay them the Usual $50. Check Craigslist. Make sure you see the actual reflow station first. The person I go to in my area has his own website and hes been doing it for years.
Towel Trick+ Xlcamp+Overheating = Even more dead 360. It might run for a little while but chances are it will die again.
You will only get the 1020 error code if you have 1 flashing red light (E72) - which is an issue with the NAND (or possibly the southbridge). The secondary error code is most likely 0102, which is very common and I fix these often (it is almost always a cold solder joint under the GPU).nick382 said:Console started back up, and I was greeted with 3 blinking red rings. Sending error code 1020, apparently an unknown hardware problem.
The x-clamp fix usually only lasts for about a week - longer if you're lucky (or if you did a really good x-clamp fix).nick382 said:I had recently (last week) just given this xbox a RRoD or x-clamp fix, to be replaced with screws and washers. I'm pretty sure I did it correctly as the console played fine and non stop for an entire week without any heat issues.
cubanboy10
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Re: Frustration + BenQ + Burned Games + 1020
Yeah, the 360 just red rings upon sitting at the dashboard for a few seconds, so, I assume I'm going to need this thing professionally fixed. Wasn't able to find anything local, any businesses that might have this kind of equipment I could rent or something?
Yeah, the 360 just red rings upon sitting at the dashboard for a few seconds, so, I assume I'm going to need this thing professionally fixed. Wasn't able to find anything local, any businesses that might have this kind of equipment I could rent or something?
cubanboy10
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Re: Frustration + BenQ + Burned Games + 1020
I think I'm going to invest in a re flowing station. Other than the actual reflowing station, is it actually required to have a preheater in order to reflow the board?
I think I'm going to invest in a re flowing station. Other than the actual reflowing station, is it actually required to have a preheater in order to reflow the board?
xvanwilderx
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Re: Frustration + BenQ + Burned Games + 1020
It will cost a lot of money and time, so unless you plan to do repairs for others, you should just pay someone else to do it.
I don't think anyone rents out that kind of equipment.nick382 said:Yeah, the 360 just red rings upon sitting at the dashboard for a few seconds, so, I assume I'm going to need this thing professionally fixed. Wasn't able to find anything local, any businesses that might have this kind of equipment I could rent or something?
A preheater or bottom heater is very important for reflows. I would recommend getting the T-8280. But a modified griddle will also be okay. Thermocouples are needed to accurately measure temperatures. You should get some flux as it helps a lot for reflows. 75% of the heat should come from the bottom heater and the remaining 25% from the top heater. There is a lot of materials and equipment you will need to do a good reflow. And your first attemp probably won't be the best.nick382 said:I think I'm going to invest in a re flowing station. Other than the actual reflowing station, is it actually required to have a preheater in order to reflow the board?
It will cost a lot of money and time, so unless you plan to do repairs for others, you should just pay someone else to do it.
cubanboy10
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Re: Frustration + BenQ + Burned Games + 1020
I do plan to do repairs for others. I don't think it will be as many as you guys take care of, but enough to cover the costs of the device. A friend and I are interested in repairing computers / electronics and this tool isn't something that would collect dust too often if it can be used in other applications as well.
How long can i expect to get out of an xbox reflowed with an advanced kit (the one you mentioned) versus reballed?
Can I reball myself?
Heh, here I go jacking my own thread...
I guess I'd just like more technical information on these kinds of repairs in general. Tried to search this forum, but didn't have much luck, can you give me some links to read?
I do plan to do repairs for others. I don't think it will be as many as you guys take care of, but enough to cover the costs of the device. A friend and I are interested in repairing computers / electronics and this tool isn't something that would collect dust too often if it can be used in other applications as well.
How long can i expect to get out of an xbox reflowed with an advanced kit (the one you mentioned) versus reballed?
Can I reball myself?
Heh, here I go jacking my own thread...
I guess I'd just like more technical information on these kinds of repairs in general. Tried to search this forum, but didn't have much luck, can you give me some links to read?
xvanwilderx
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Re: Frustration + BenQ + Burned Games + 1020
You can reball yourself, all you need is the equipment to do reflows and reballing equipment (solder balls, flux and stencils, basically). The chips that cause problems on the 360 are attached to the motherboard using BGA packaging. The 360 uses lead-free solder, so when you reball a chip, you should replace it will leaded solder as people say is better since it is less prone to cause short circuits and cold joints.
I'm not sure how much more you'll get out of a reballed 360 vs a reflowed one - but you'll definitely get better results. Reballing takes practise though, and even if you reball a chip, the 360 may come back with a different problem. For example, you reballed the GPU, but it gets RRoD 3 months later because of a cold solder join under the HANA chip. To get the best results, you should also focus on keeping the motherboard level (x-clamps cause some warping, hybrid kit provides good support) and cool. I do the 12v fan mod on every reflow and offer to use the hybrid kit for +$30.
This isn't much of an Xbox repairing forum. Sign up for an account on the CVX Game Console Forum. They have a lot of good information and a forum dedicated to Reflowing / Reballing Techniques & Equipment. They also have a good number of active members who do professional repairs. The Xbox-Experts forum is also good as they have a repair forum and a good Xbox 360 error code list / database which I use often.nick382 said:I do plan to do repairs for others. I don't think it will be as many as you guys take care of, but enough to cover the costs of the device. A friend and I are interested in repairing computers / electronics and this tool isn't something that would collect dust too often if it can be used in other applications as well.
How long can i expect to get out of an xbox reflowed with an advanced kit (the one you mentioned) versus reballed?
Can I reball myself?
Heh, here I go jacking my own thread...
I guess I'd just like more technical information on these kinds of repairs in general. Tried to search this forum, but didn't have much luck, can you give me some links to read?
You can reball yourself, all you need is the equipment to do reflows and reballing equipment (solder balls, flux and stencils, basically). The chips that cause problems on the 360 are attached to the motherboard using BGA packaging. The 360 uses lead-free solder, so when you reball a chip, you should replace it will leaded solder as people say is better since it is less prone to cause short circuits and cold joints.
I'm not sure how much more you'll get out of a reballed 360 vs a reflowed one - but you'll definitely get better results. Reballing takes practise though, and even if you reball a chip, the 360 may come back with a different problem. For example, you reballed the GPU, but it gets RRoD 3 months later because of a cold solder join under the HANA chip. To get the best results, you should also focus on keeping the motherboard level (x-clamps cause some warping, hybrid kit provides good support) and cool. I do the 12v fan mod on every reflow and offer to use the hybrid kit for +$30.