XBL Unwanted Updates

Achilles3

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An automatic update for Xbox users removes a bug that allowed users to run Linux on their machines

Microsoft is updating Internet-enabled Xbox game consoles with a software patch that blocks users from installing the Linux operating system on the machine, and also apparently deletes some files Linux users have stored on the Xbox's hard drive, according to the Xbox Linux Project.

The group also noted that some Xbox Live-enabled games appear to automatically connect to Microsoft servers, identifying the machine running the game, without the need for an Xbox Live account.

The update plugs a flaw in the Xbox Dashboard (its startup menu), which Linux enthusiasts had used to install Linux without the need for modifying the console's hardware. Ordinarily, the console will not run software that has not been approved by Microsoft.

The Xbox, and Linux users' efforts to run their software of choice on it, is seen by many as a test case for future PCs that are more tightly controlled by the vendor -- a vision embodied in Microsoft's Next-Generation Secure Computing Base (NGSCB) project, formerly known as Palladium. The NGSCB effort has raised concerns amongst privacy and civil liberties advocates.

The Xbox Linux Project, in an effort partly funded by Lindows founder Michael Robertson, created a version of Linux that could run on the Xbox, and devised a method using the Dashboard flaw and a bug in an Xbox game to install the operating system. The process allows the machine to continue functioning as a standard console, as well as offering the option to boot Linux. The Xbox is built of standard PC parts and runs on a stripped-down version of Windows.

The Xbox update automatically installs itself on consoles that have the ability to connect to the Internet, if a user selects the "Xbox Live" option from the Dashboard. The user needs only to enter Internet connection details, and need not have signed up for the Xbox Live service, which allows users to play networked games. Users are not asked to approve the update, as is standard for Xbox Live software updates.

Unwanted updates
The update disables the bug that allowed Linux to be installed, according to Michael Steil, one of the principal members of the Xbox Linux Project. "As soon as the Dashboard is updated, our application to disable the Xbox's anti-Linux protection (version 1.0) will not work any more," he said, adding, "we're working on a version 2.0."

He said the update also erased a directory on the Xbox's hard drive that had contained a document he created and stored using Linux. "I never allowed Microsoft alter anything on my Xbox through the Internet, and I never signed anything that contains a permission for Microsoft to do so," he wrote in an open letter to Microsoft, published on the Xbox Linux Web site. "I never allowed Microsoft to delete anything on my Xbox through an Internet connection."

Steil noted that Microsoft's actions might even be subject to penalties under Germany's anti-hacker laws.

Automatic updates are controversial, particularly where it comes to Windows, by far the dominant PC operating system. Microsoft is considering making Windows security updates automatic, but users have baulked at a broader scope for un-approved software upgrades. In some cases, software vendors have already used updates to remove functionality deemed controversial, such as an Apple iTunes update that removed certain networking capabilities.

Under the installation method used by the Xbox Linux Project, known as Mechinstaller, a set of three files are transferred to the Xbox's hard drive via an Xbox USB memory card. From a game called MechAssault, one of the files is "opened" as though it were a saved game. This installs Linux, which can then be accessed via the Dashboard.

Phoning home
Steil also noted that some Xbox games appear to connect to Microsoft servers each time they are run, without the user's knowledge, and without the need for an Xbox Live account.

Steil said that when he set up the console with his Internet settings, it automatically transmitted data including the machine's serial number to a Microsoft server. Some Xbox Live-enabled games, including the popular Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell, go through a similar procedure each time they are launched, again without the need for an Xbox Live connection, he said.

Splinter Cell did not transmit the console's serial number, at least not in plain-text form, but a response from the server contained the number. This "proves that Microsoft knows about the serial, and knows what Xbox just started Splinter Cell", Steil said in a statement on the Xbox Linux site.

"Microsoft spies on Xbox gamers. All Xbox Live users, even if they don't use any 'Live' content, as well as all other users that have set up their networking correctly, are automatically registered at Microsoft with their serial number each time they start Splinter Cell (and possibly other games), without being asked," he stated.

Microsoft representatives were unable to comment for this article.
Source: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/linuxunix/0,39020390,39116400,00.htm


OK so I found this interesting article that is kinda scary. I think this is what happened to my HDD earlier when all my emu's with roms and xbmc files disappeared right after I accidently accessed the Live Tab when I was changing the Time and Settings in MS Dash. I tried to delete the "xodash" folder at first so I wouldn't make the same accident again, booted to MS Dash and my Xbox fragged. Tried to remove the xonlinedash.xbe and it fragged again. Any ideas how I can safely remove the Live Tab?
 
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linuxn00b2004

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Wow, that makes me so angry... I truely, truely wish that I would have bought a Playstation 2 instead. At every turn, Microsoft's actions make me more interested in their competition.
I guess lots of people have seen me type these very same words over and over again, but I must repeat them after I see something like this.
I will be buying the Playstation 3. I will be buying a Mac G4 laptop. I will buy beigebox systems with no operating systems pre-installed, and use them for Linux boxes. Anything but Microsoft.

- Greg

PS: Good post!
 
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Microsoft will ****ing be the next Skynet [Ever seen Teminator?], watch.
 

halomaster7777

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I'm sure there will be big revolt against this, its one to ban us for running the modchip on live, perfectly understandable, because of cheaters, but to make it impossible for me to run linux on my box because I have live, thats crazy. I'm sure within 5 weeks of the update the scene will have some fixes.
 

linuxn00b2004

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kimosabe said:
Microsoft will ****ing be the next Skynet [Ever seen Teminator?], watch.
I know you are kind of joking... but there's any easy way to avoid this:

Buy Apple, Penguin Computing, Nintendo, and Sony! Especially for next generation of systems and computers...

I know that'll be a very unpopular idea on these forums, but I'll say it regardless. Because, after all, if Microsoft is losing money, then they won't have enough to continue their monopoly on things related to computers. It would, at the very least, force them to become innovative and to cooperate with standards! Maybe, just maybe, they would put out a high-quality operating system for once, too.

- Greg
 
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Flubster

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Did anyone actually read the ZDNet article, its dated September 16, 2003, 17:39 GMT ffs

Flubster
 

Floppy Mohawk

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Why couldn't you just restore the old M$ dashboard?
 
I'm in agreement that MS does things which are shady, but anyone using mozilla or linux because of sh*t they hate about the actual software are pansies, since windows rocks. Why do I say this? Because I love to be a hacker and find sh*t on a computer and learn to use the full extent of it. I use IE and Windows XP and have modified my registry and software so completely that I never have any issues whatsoever, and have the power tools I need to make everything work synchronously and cleanly. If you hate MS so much, you should buy an Xbox and use it as a non-networked linux server, since they take a hardware cost loss. It's not about going around them, it's about bending them to your will. Oh, and about them making software that the world has to shell out tons of money for, two words - ARRRRR, MATEY! MS made a good base software for me to learn and change away from the pretty packaged version you get when you install it fresh, and it's a damn fine OS once you clear out the BS.