Xbox 360 Slim Caugth in Update Loop!?
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Alright...I guess this is what they call a major...well, you know what! As you can see in the pic...I've tried to remove the QSB (thinking that I accidentally bridged solder under the QSB because I could measure continuity between the two points on the QSB (labelled in BLACK) which I of course found this diagram AFTER I tried removing the QSB and destroyed the pads. Now, I would greatly appreciated if someone would kindly show me which traces connect to which so I can make a feeble attempt to repair my screw up? Do you guys think it's possible for me to repair this successfully? KINDLY HELP.Thank you all!
H.I.
P.S. -it was due to the fact the Internet Explorer absolutely sucks is the reason I couldn't upload a photo to you all earlier. Cheers to Firefox!
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If you can't see where they are connected or can't figure it out.. You probably shouldn't even try to fix it.
Yeah....that's not helpful. Although you may be right.....your answer makes your contribution to this forum....well, useless.
For the folks that have been good enough to help this guy out...I HAVE determined the traces that need repairing....although the work may not be the prettiest, considering how delicate the traces are in this are, hopefully it will be functional again so I can re-try the QSB thing....NAND read and then get it to Xell to try to attain the CPU key....then fix the image!
hows this for helping.. make sure you have continuity for all the points here. then you can start over.
http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96647
trace repair tut here
http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84317
wasn't trying to be a prick before.... its tedious work. and if you mess this up.. you can just scrap the board then.
Good luck.
edit: found these solutions with a quick google search btw.
http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96647
trace repair tut here
http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84317
wasn't trying to be a prick before.... its tedious work. and if you mess this up.. you can just scrap the board then.
Good luck.
edit: found these solutions with a quick google search btw.
.....much much better! Thank you. I managed to find http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96647 on my own, and the trace repair link is a good one also....but I've already schooled myself in this topic...thanks all the same.
This Helpless Idiot....is a STUBBORN Helpless Idiot.....having every intention of figuring out this repair, read, get CPU, fix image, load new image and FINALLY get son's Xbox 360 Slim working again!
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Taijigamer2
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What kit are u using to solder? I would recommend using lots of flux and fine (0.5mm - 1mm) rosin core 60/40 solder with a fine tipped soldering iron. This will hopefully avoid the chance of bridging with your QSB install (once you are successful in repairing those pads :smile
. A pair of jewellers loops and a lot of patience can also help. Good luck.
. A pair of jewellers loops and a lot of patience can also help. Good luck.......Success with restoring power to the board, BUT, the repair to the pad area is REALLY poor. I'm going to have to figure out the alternate to solder the QSB to...NO WAY i can risk getting anywhere near those pads again! Thoughts?What kit are u using to solder? I would recommend using lots of flux and fine (0.5mm - 1mm) rosin core 60/40 solder with a fine tipped soldering iron. This will hopefully avoid the chance of bridging with your QSB install (once you are successful in repairing those pads :smile
Taijigamer2
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Please post fresh pictures as u go so that we can see your progress. Where abouts are u based? It may be worth while seeking the assistance of a pro as these repairs can be a nightmare. I would start by exposing the copper on the vias connected to the pulled pads as this will give better solder point to solder some wire (30AWG kynar) to. then use this thread mentioned earlier http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96647 to rebuild your points. I dont think there is an alternative. Good luck.
I will post some pics first chance I get...although I would rather hide in shame my repair job! (hey....it powers again, so really....that's all that matters at this point in the game! :smile
I'm thinking that I will solder directly to the chip pads (Southbridge is it?) to the QSB (as per XMODS diagram). I'm very hesitant putting heat back anywhere near the area of my pad / trace rebuilding mess! This too I will post a picture of...I'm hoping I can get a successful read of the NAND by this evening! I hope to post back this evening. IF I can read the (NAND), then I will move on to installing the CR3 Lite I have available. Cheers!H.I.
OK - here is the repair to the pads....as I said...it's really ugly, but tested to be working fine! Secondly.....I need Team Xecuter's great members consent that I can go ahead with an epoxy of the QSB wiring! I used the same color coding (almost) as seen in the posted pin out diagram of the TX QSB. I want to epoxy this now for strength, then, cross my fingers and carefully solder the other ends of these wires to the correct pad(s). Then....with ANY luck....read a NAND!
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Taijigamer2
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Don't be so hard on yourself, we've seen some real corkers on this site so you're not the only one. But it is important to include all pictures of install/repair to get maximum help. U will definately need a low Watt (~12-15W) iron or better, a variable temp, ESD protection iron for this sort of repair work. If u get any issues with your install, beyond reading your Nand, then be sure to fill in this template.
So, I did solder my wires to the area of the rebuilt pads / traces after all. The unfortunate part is now, I'm stuck. I've followed every tut I think I can find but I just can't seem to read the 4 Gb NAND? Even though Windows asks me if I want to format the disk, I choose Cancel, then NO separate window pops up at this point. I selected READ NAND, then chose what I think it the RW reader, then I get the error shown in the pic. Please see my pic and maybe you can help figure out what I'm missing? Thanks!
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Hi there. Please see the two pics in the above edited post. I'm sure I've done a very reasonable job with making sure it's wired correctly and the connections are good. Can't read the NAND though? J-Runner does not see the "drive"? Thoughts?
....just noticed this spot in picture 3! You think that might be touching there causing my read error!?Update - fixed the area around the possible join....still won't read. I will be changing the strategy tomorrow. If that doesn't work....well..guess my kid no longer will have a console. :facepalm:
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Have you tried a different computer. could just be your card reader. I know I had to buy a little usb multi card reader to get mine to work correctly.
Taijigamer2
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I would say its time to call a pro to fix the damage. The repair is messy and likely to be causing shorts. There are several modders around that area who could fix your console up for a good price. I know nofeloniesyet is based in NY. U've given it a good crack but unless u tidy up that fix and make it solid, u'r not going to have any luck reading the Nand. Have u checked all connections with a multimeter. U haven't included pictures of the whole repair and u have tried to solder to a trace, it would be easier and more stable to solder to vias and components. If u'r intent on fixing it u'rself then take it all off and tidy it up then run wires to fix the connections as per the rebuild guide, don't try to build up the broken pads, u wont have any success soldering to them. Get it working stable as stock first then solder u'r reader to the appropriate vias/headers with wire. Good luck.
Will post pics soon. Board will not power now. ALL connections have been checked out for continuity (repaired pad area). Checked for continuity from pad area to pads at southbridge and to my newly soldered QSB wiring...all continuity is present...checked for shorts between pads / wires and ground...NO shorts! Xbox Slim console will not power anymore. What a waste of time and money. And to think it all started with TX QSB solder pad areas not quite lining up as they should....went from bad to worse once removal was necessary....went from worse to completely trash now. I might give it to a local modder to have him take a look...but it really ain't worth the money. My kid is so upset with me...don't know how to deal with that issue! Crummy!
In re-reading your post...I realized I missed the information suggesting I remove the 4 gb module from the motherboard? How do I do that? How will the Xbox 360 turn on with no module attached? You don't mean the x 4 1 gb chips soldered in the board do you!? Please throw me a lead on how to do this as I've come up empty handed with my searching? "How do I remove the 4 gb module from Xbox 360 S Corona V2 mobo"?
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Taijigamer2
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Lol, sorry mate, thought u were NY. Either way the op is going to have to look further afield for a good repair specialist to help get his console working.im in nc,wny is ny
