RGH Xbox Falcon seriously injured after a RGH attempt

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Hi all, I have tried for the first time to RGH a phat (falcon cb 5771) with bad results considering that I'm here to ask you experts:

steps done:

1) I read 6 times nand (2 bad blocks in position 17A and 21E all 6 also resoldering my NAND reader) I compare my dumps and okay only these bad sectors
2) I write the file .ecc generated with multibuild 0.7
3) I mount Xecuter CoolRunner RevB programmed with impact set to phat and set to nor (I get angry because I accidentally removed the pad to point r7r17 PLLBYPS so i solder it directly on the resistance)
4) I turn on the console the fans run but do not normally but like console attempt to glitch, but the green LED does not want turn on but stuck into red one
5) I resolder all and I check continuity with a multimeter and everything look perfect so I decide to try again.... and nothing to do, a f*** black screen and console that will not boot
6) Reading on the net I saw that if in the CoolRunner there's no green light it could be 2 causes: soldering problem or nand problem, so I decided to go back to stock nand to verify this last hypothesis
7) put again the original nand with nandpro with the command: :-w16 xyz.bin It wrote everything correctly except the 17A and 21E 2 bad sectors
8) I remove all CoolRunner and SPI to avoid any possible problem to have things as clean as possible, but the console fans still don't work like always and there is always the black but after 1 minute i have 2 red led on the console error 22 ok no problem :mad2:
9) I decided to do an erase command with the nand nandpro usb: -e16 delete everything except the bad blocks 21E rewrite the original nand with :-w16 and nothing change. My console won't come back to life

Thinking there are 2 hypotheses: original nand dump was not valid maybe I should try with a console dump of a console twin of mine.
or That F***K 21E sector that gives me problems also with the erase (I have not idea how fix that)
The only problem I see in the HW is in the damn PLLBYPS? Ok I removed the pad but in itself does not matter right? It may be that I burned the resistance? bah I used a 11w soldering station with a 0.3 mm tip micromicro, anyway I don't think that if I have burned this resistence I had this kind of problem.
I thank anyone who can help me or even try to attempt. Thanks

 

[seanr28]

pictures........

 

[elerepair]

yeah. post some pics, so we can see, what have you done.
post a closeup of the place where you pulled the pad.

 

[playingmax]

we need to see some pics of ur work so we could help you out.

 

[[email protected]]

here I am, sorry 'cause snow I was without internet in these days. To pass time I have done a big mistake,
First I made the fix, scrap under the x-clamp and then bridge with the resistor on the bottom, but the console doesn't boot so I check the resistor of the PLL_BYPASS and i see that it doesn't work so I decide to change with another one (non smd) But..................sh*t one pad of the resistor is gone i post some photo please help mehttp://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9361/sh*t2f.jpg

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/8982/sh*t3.jpg

there will be a method to save my xbox. THANKS

 

[Krafter]

there will be a method to save my xbox. THANKS

Yes, send it to someone to fix it for you. No offense but if you can't solder to that point then reattaching a resistor is going to be even harder for you.

 

[Indestructable]

whats your location

 

[synxx]

there will be a method to save my xbox. THANKS

if i where you i'd stop any work on this at all and send it to a pro before this board is dead if not already.

post a add for repair or if you cant look for services offered for repair. i know of two top guys off here who can probably fix it. martin c and garageinc. links below to there services.

http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52050


http://www.team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60727

 

[[email protected]]

well, sorry but it's not that the point. I have done 4 xbox360 2 falcon 1 slim and a crazy jasper, with no problem..before that, but this one is strange the pad in the bottom are really thin and not solid. I always use the same 11w solder with temp regulator..so ok, me too in seeing that hell, maybe could say "send it to someone to fix it for you", but really i need help no this kind of derision. Yes from this photo seems that i have digged with my solder but this is only because I would fix my problem. SO again could someone really help me?

 

[Krafter]

All I can suggest to you then is to look at this pic and repair the damage. It's a good clear image of what the board should look like. I'm not sure what more you could ask for other than the value of the resistor that needs to be replaced. I cannot answer that off the top of me head.

http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74689

 

[WNYConsoles]

If you solder to the original point that appears to still be in-tact you can solder a 10K ohm resistor onto the CoolRunner PLL point in-line with the PLL wire. So you would have the CoolRunner Board, 10k ohm resistor, PLL wire, original point.

Give that a try. It worked on a Falcon that was missing the resistor which otherwise booted to 3RROD 0020.

 

[Martin C]

well, sorry but it's not that the point. I have done 4 xbox360 2 falcon 1 slim and a crazy jasper, with no problem..before that, but this one is strange the pad in the bottom are really thin and not solid. I always use the same 11w solder with temp regulator..so ok, me too in seeing that hell, maybe could say "send it to someone to fix it for you", but really i need help no this kind of derision. Yes from this photo seems that i have digged with my solder but this is only because I would fix my problem. SO again could someone really help me?

You've already been told what to do. Get someone to fix it for you. If you don't want to take the better advice of the two options, don't post back complaining.

 

[[email protected]]

Sorry Martin C, but this sound like an arrogant response.
I believe myself to be polite but maybe that sound like a complain...
I would only like to know how a pro like u of course, could repair that mess.
I Already know that 1,000,000 people is better than me in soldering but i would like to know how could I fix it.
is this a secret like magicians's tricks ?
By the way i have sold the little pll pad on a 10k resistor and bridge it in the face place on the alternative pll..now resistor give me 9,98k but....console doesn't start

My last question is: But if i don't have anymore resitor or pad in the bottom face, can I use only the top face to fix my mess? Thank again for anyone really help me with answer and not only with warnings. If nobody give a try, we'd still be with square wheels.:smile:

 

[RavenPhoenix]

Sorry Martin C, but this sound like an arrogant response.
I believe myself to be polite but maybe that sound like a complain...
I would only like to know how a pro like u of course, could repair that mess.
I Already know that 1,000,000 people is better than me in soldering but i would like to know how could I fix it.
is this a secret like magicians's tricks ?
By the way i have sold the little pll pad on a 10k resistor and bridge it in the face place on the alternative pll..now resistor give me 9,98k but....console doesn't start

My last question is: But if i don't have anymore resitor or pad in the bottom face, can I use only the top face to fix my mess? Thank again for anyone really help me with answer and not only with warnings. If nobody give a try, we'd still be with square wheels.:smile:

It's not that "it is a secret" or like "magician tricks"......it's just that it seems you may require someone with a bit more soldering experience and skills to perform the repair for you. Judging from the pics that you have posted it just doesn't seem like you will be capable of the trace/pcb repair job ahead of you hence why Martin and OP have suggested that you send it in to a pro who posses the skills required to do the job. There is no shame or anything wrong with admitting defeat in a situation like this and it is better to cut your losses before it is too late.

However if you insist on carrying out the repair yourself then please do a search on alternate points or trace repair and you should find a few post which are of great assistance to you. If you have any trouble finding these post then please let me know and I will do the searching for you and post the links to the pages you require.

Good luck with what ever you decide on.

 

[Krafter]

+1 to most of that. However, alt points wont do any good until the damage is repaired on the original points.

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[RROD!]

well, sorry but it's not that the point. I have done 4 xbox360 2 falcon 1 slim and a crazy jasper, with no problem.

lol so how did a pro like you manage to shag the PLL_BYPASS ???? some one take this crazy mans soldering iron away from him hes going to hurt him self with it :biggrin:

 

[hersheys247]

lol so how did a pro like you manage to shag the PLL_BYPASS ???? some one take this crazy mans soldering iron away from him hes going to hurt him self with it :biggrin:

read the title, its not him that was injured, it was the falcon board that got seriously injured, LOL

on a serious note, you have been given great advice, we can lead a (insert animal) to water but you cant make it drink it. (something like that:rolleyes2

 

[synxx]

read the title, its not him that was injured, it was the falcon board that got seriously injured, LOL

on a serious note, you have been given great advice, we can lead a (insert animal) to water but you cant make it drink it. (something like that:rolleyes2

i belive most people say "you can lead a horse to water..." :wink:

 

[Martin C]

I would only like to know how a pro like u of course, could repair that mess.

Easily, but I can solder. You need to repair the trace and replace any missing components.

Having the instruction to do it is not the same as the ability. Unless you're a skilled surgeon, there's no point in you buying a medical book to do a heart transplant, is there?

 

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Martin C you are right...i'm not a skilled surgeon, and obviously i'm not a skilled solderer. But i believe that you aren't born skilled right?
I wouldn't make a disputatious with you but I very angry with myself for the mess up that I have done and now I prefer to go through alone, without send it to a pro, because it's in my nature to do so and I hope to find an alternative point to do that.



I thank RavenPhoenix who have tell me to do a research but I can't find what I search: how to restore PLL point only with the top face of the board.