Xbox Live Kerberos authentication

[armzilla]

if you look at the traffic between yoru xbox and the live network, half of the kerberos authenticaiton process is missing. The xbox sends a TGS_REQ (TGS == ticket granting service) but the thing is... you need the Ticket Granting Ticket first, which is given by the the prior steps of the authentication. The theory? The xbox live enabled games does some authentications .. maybe with md5 hash of the bios, generating the ticket granting ticket for the live servers. If so, patching the software to produce the right hash and generating the right TGT would allow access of the live network... maybe...

just a thought...

,arm

 

[halomaster7777]

Wow i have no idea what you said.

 

[jwin767]

I have a idea what he said and he might be on to something there i might have a look into this.

 

[DaN20]

This is interesting....let us know if it works.



---Dan

 

[jwin767]

i had a look at the traffic and it is kinda true what he has picked up on, but... there is no real easy way of knowing if it will be a different ticket every time you log on to live, or if there is a certain pattern to follow.

 

[armzilla]

i will look more into the xbox live library from the xdk. Wasnt there a group that was claiming that they had a beta out of a live server? I mean.. starting from stratch sucks

 

[RealestDeMo]

Hmm, a free xbox live server. With modded maps as downloadable content ;-) sounds interesting!

 

[jwin767]

Hmm, a free xbox live server. With modded maps as downloadable content ;-) sounds interesting!

Its was romured ages ago, i heard about it, then all went dead.... bet M$ found the people. when 360 comes out there will be a free LIVE service anyway.. ill still buy GOLD tho lol

 

[armzilla]

hmm

thinking about it... microsoft made it "secure" for the reason that if the network does become compromised.. then any jerk off can run modified versions of the games and introduce (more) cheating. A modded xbox Live network doesnt sound like such a nice place afterall. Its like a pandora's box... open at own's risk

 

[RealestDeMo]

true more cheating, as if the existing tunneling networks don't have enough. A second FREE xbox live network where everyone can contribute by putting up their own modded maps as downloadable content and play backups would still be better than the existing live network. I have a few games that have broken that I would like to play online again, cheaters present or not.

 

[Ezcalade]

Download modded maps from Live? Try Mimesis when it's released, works just the same.
http://angrycamel.com/mimesis/