Xecuter2 2.6CE Switch Schematic

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For anyone that is looking to get fancy with the switches, understand how they work or troubleshoot them here is the schematic I made up based on following the traces of an X2 2.6CE switch.
I plan on being back later and adding notes about how different areas work. Watch this space!

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Welcome to This Old Modchip

Disclaimer: I am not a member of Team Xecuter nor am I an electrical engineer. What I am presenting here are my conclusions and ideas based on knowledge of the Xbox internals, testing I've done with the switch bank and electronics wisdom I've gained as a hobbyist. I am sharing my theories and observations which may not be 100% accurate. I welcome anyone that has more knowledge on this than I to jump in and correct me if I am wrong. This will both help my own understanding of the X2 chip operation and keep others from using bad instruction.

What I've found with the switch bank is that the different selections are made by grounding three different detection leads. (for lack of a better term) Pins 1 through 3 of the plug on the switch are the leads for Bank 1, Mod Enable and Flash Protect in that order. If these are open, dead circuits then the settings are off. Pin 1 is grounded, the mod will boot from Bank 1; if not it will boot from Bank 2. Pin 2 is grounded, the mod will be enabled and load BIOS from the selected bank; if not it will boot the motherboard's BIOS. (This is the D0 switch) If pin 3 is grounded you will not be able to flash your chip as it will be write protected; if not the chip is free to be flashed. Pin 4 is the common ground for all switches and LEDs. You can use this info and a continuity tester/multimeter to check the function of the switches if you suspect a problem.

All the main switches are Dual Pole Dual Throw, or DPDT. Think of this as having a light switch that in the up position turns on one light, but in the down position turns on another. Now take two of these and link them together, so that when you throw one switch you throw both. The primary use of each switch is to ground the respective detection lead as discussed above. Bank 1, Mod Enable, Flash Protect. The alternate function is to turn on or off LEDs. One interesting thing is the way the Enable/Disable switch is wired. This receives and directs an incoming positive voltage from pin 5. In the disabled position it only provides power to the red side of the Enable/Disable LED. When enabled it provides power to the green side of the Enable/Disable LED, powers the Bank 1 LED and sends power to the Flash Protect and Bank1/Bank2 switches. In this design there is no way the bank selection or flash protection LEDs will ever be lit unless the mod is enabled. Also of note is that this sends a positive voltage back out from the switch bank and to the modchip on pin 6. From quick poking around it appears this only provides power to the blue LED that is on the chip, but it may serve other functions. I don't know if this may replace the function of the Enable detection lead, but this is why the blue LED goes out when you set the switch to Disable. BTW, LEDs (and some similar components I believe) are represented in electronics by a triangle pointing to a line. The triangle points in a positive to negative direction, the only direction voltage will flow through the component. Like she said, traffic there is one way only, mister! The jagged items in line with the LEDs are resistors needed to keep the LEDs from blowing out due to over voltage.

Like the Enable/Disable switch, the Flash Protect switch also will send power to either the green (protected) or red (unprotected) side of an LED. On the Bank1/Bank2 switch it will light the Bank2 LED when in the Bank2 position (well, duh) and does nothing when in the Bank1 position. By the design of the circuit, if the mod is enabled the Bank1 LED will always be on.

Unless! That little SPDT (single pole dual throw) switch that tuns the LEDs on and off? That controls the ground connection for all LEDs except for the Enable/Disable LED. If this is set to off then no LEDs but Enable/Disable will have a complete circuit. This not only includes the LEDs already listed but also the LAN and HDD indicators as well.

Power for the LAN and HDD LEDs come in on pins 7 and 8 respectively. These link right to the green and red wires you (or someone else) soldered to the bottom of your motherboard.

OK, now that we know a bit about how the switch bank works, how can we apply this knowledge?

Scenario 1: While the Xbox is powered off (otherwise this would cause a nasty short) someone manages to knock the switch bank off your Xbox, cuts all the wires and totals the switch bank. So what do you do after you kick his ass? Splice the cable coming from the chip! The cable is known as a rollover cable (not crossover, there's a difference) because the pins are in the exact opposite order on the reverse side. Think of it this way... take your now damaged switch bank and hold it to the mod chip, both with component side up and so that the pins of the plugs were pointing at each other. Pin 1 points to pin 1, pin 2 to pin 2 and so on. BUT if you hold them stacked so that the pins are all pointing in the same direction, this is now reversed. If the pins were pointing towards you component side up, on the switch bank pin 1 would be on the left but on the chip pin 1 would be on the right. Now that you know where pin 1 is on the chip you can match up the functions to the pins on the switch. So if you want your mod to be always on, flash protected and booting off of bank 1 you would want to splice the wires from pins 1, 2, 3 and 4. If you want to boot from bank 2, leave out the pin 1 wire. Want to leave your chip available for flashing? Leave out pin 3. Follow? There may be one problem with this scenario and fix... that positive voltage that goes back to the chip on pin 6. If this does more than just light the LED then the fixes may not work. This is not something I have played around with yet.

Scenario 2: Your X2.3 lite or X2.3B lite switch bank has been damaged, but the wires are still good. What can you do? Get a X2.6CE switch bank! Pins 1 through 5 are exactly the same on the X2.6CE switch bank as on the X2.3 lite and X2.3B lite switch banks. (I cannot confirm any others, these three are the only switches I've had the opportunity to look at.) I've got a similar diagram for the X2.3(B) lite switches in the discontinued modchip forums. The pin spacing on the plugs between the X2.3 and the X2.6CE switches is identical, and the edges of the plug are not wide enough to damage any leftover pins. So long as you have the cable plugged in to pins 1 to 5 only this should work. Check the X2 resellers, I know one of them sells the switch bank separately for about $6USD. Others may also provide this part but not have it listed in the webshop.

Scenario 3: You've got an X2.3 and are bored with the existing switch bank you have. You want the added LAN/HDD/Flash Protect/Bank LEDs as well. Get a X2.6CE switch and (probably more difficult to obtain) 8-pin cable! This is actually where my fuel for this research came from, I'm interested in doing this. Also, someone said it couldn't be done. They obviously were asking for a Challenge! Here is the trick, which I have not done yet. Intend on keeping the black connector connected to the switch, since I think that helps the overall look of the switches. On this side of the cable, carefully remove the receiver for pin 6. (positive voltage out) You will not be using this output. To remove the receivers you will need to carefully lift the plastic tab portion above the metal bits, and then gently pull the wire and receiver out. This will work best if you have something to hold the plug while you can work with one hand pulling the wire and the other lifting the tab. Use a hobby knife or jeweler's screwdriver, you'll need something small to get at this tab. On the other end of the cable, remove all the receivers from the white plug, same procedure. From your old X2.3 cable remove the receivers from one of the plugs. This empty plug housing will now be attached to the pin 1 through 5 wires coming from the black plug. Remember to keep the order correct, a rollover cable as discussed before. This can be connected to the X2.3 chip. On the LAN (pin 7) and HDD (pin 8) wires, splice on an extension so that you can solder these to the proper points on the bottom of the Xbox motherboard. (See the X2.6/X3 install guides.) I'm looking into finding decent wire to wire plug and receiver components to go in place of the splice, but at this time I do not have any recommendations. Ideally you want to have some way to break the main portion of the cable away from the motherboard. If everything has been wired correctly you will now have your trusty X2.3 chip with the fly X2.6CE switch bank! You'll then be the envy of all your friends, the life of the party and will get the hot chicks for sure! Whoever thought 1337 m0d 5ki11z could go so far?

I hope to have scenario 3 done and working before the end of the year in my box. Just looking for the right plug/socket to go in place of the splice. Anyone have any other ideas/combinations that could be done since I've demystified the switch bank? (really, the pins off the chip too.) Comments welcome as well. PM me if you've got switches from other X2 series chips that you would want to see put into schematic form. I only had X2.3 lite, X2.3B lite (both the same, just different colors) and X2.6CE available for research. Got something else that you can spare?

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More updates!

Confirmed! X2.3/X2.3B users that want to use a X2.6CE switch can plug the switch directly on without modification so long as the plug is aligned correctly. This is scenario 2 above. I confirmed this on my own Xbox, and have the pics to show.

Here you can see my 2.3 switch bank on the side of the shielding, and the blue LEDs of the chip itself through the grill. All switches function properly and the LEDs match.


Here is a better view of the plug. The trick is that you must have the plug inserted in to the first five pins only. There are 3 pins to the left of the plug that are not being used. You can't see all of them as one is right against the side of the plug, which is actually a good thing. This particular pin is the one that carries the return positive voltage to the chip (confirmed, 5v) and is live when the mod is enabled. The 2.3 series does not need this power from the switch bank. Note that the LAN/HDD LEDs will not light up on the switch, since there is nothing sending them voltage.

Update! The mystery 5v return to the chip from the switch bank does appear to power the whole thing, at least with the X2.6CE. I followed the trace from the red alt 5v plug and the 5v plug in the LPC socket. These meet up and go right to the plug for the switch bank. I could find no indication that they went anywhere but to that switch bank pin. This is probably why the gauge of the switch bank wires changed between the 2.3 and 2.6 chips. They used to be 30ga, now they are 28ga. So, in scenario 1 you will likely need to jumper pins 5 and 6 together. I have not tested this myself, this is still only a theory. Understand that you are taking a risk of toasting something by doing this.

Also, I have the parts and am starting work on my full X2.6CE switch to X2.3 chip mod cable. This will allow me to use the X2.6CE switch (which I can already do) but will also include LAN/HDD LED functionality! Woot!

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Check, check. 1... 2...

OK, here's the quick switch bank continuity test.
On = continuity/zero Ohms/link; Off = none o' that.

Pins 1 & 4 - On if bank switch is set to 1, off if set to 2.
Pins 2 & 4 - On if chip is enabled, off if disabled.
Pins 3 & 4 - On if flash is protected, off if unprotected.
Pins 5 & 6 - On if chip is enabled, off if disabled.

These are just the critical pins. If they aren't working right you are likely to have problems. The LEDs are a bit more tricky to test since you're probably going to need to touch one contact to a pin and the other to the edge of the LED. Pesky diodes. You don't really need to test those tho, I don't think I've ever seen a complaint of just the LEDs not working. They may be passing more current through the switch, which I believe would help to keep them working if the switch goes flaky.

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So I've built that cable I had talked about. I needed some 28ga wire and didn't have much available. I then happened to be able to identify that common computer ribbon cables, like those used for older ATA and floppy drives are very conveniently 28ga. And neatly linked together, bonus. Cannibalized a floppy cable (who the heck still uses floppies? Actually, I did today...) and stripped off 7 wires. Didn't need 8 wires since I have no use for the 5v return, or at the time I didn't think I did. Built up my connectors and came up with this-

The larger white connector is an 8 pin plug that I bought, the smaller is a 5 pin plug that I stripped from my unused 2.3 lite parts since I am no longer using the extra ground line or USB interface board. The black plugs are more parts that I purchased, I stole the red and green wire from a phone cord I shredded. All wire used was stranded for optimal flexibility. Here's a closer view of the connectors-

The white connectors and the wires leading to them look a bit abused because it took me a bit to get the metal bits into the plugs. On both I had soldered to the wires all the itty-bitty contacts, they are supposed to be crimp-ons. The damn crimp tool retails for $200+USD so I skipped that. (I've since picked one up off ebay for $50, should be here next week.) Anyway, with the solder added to the contacts and the "wings" not properly crimped over they didn't want to fit perfectly into the plugs. A little encouragement was required with a pair of needle-nose pliers. Also on the 5 pin connector I goofed and soldered all the contacts on upside down, so I needed to put a 180° twist into each wire. On the black connector the pins had much larger crimp areas so soldering worked fine. The point of the black connector is so that if I need to take the motherboard out of the box I don't need to unsolder the HDD/LAN wires. It sorta seems to click more if you try and think that ideally you want everything to separate at the chip, since in the real installs with all the right hardware it does. So here's the 5 pin connector successfully plugged into the chip-

The blue/white wire on my chip is a mod I applied to get rid of the extra 5 pin plug that supplies (additional?) ground and power. Read about it here in the discontinued mod chips area. So after attaching the switch I took the time to test out all connections from the chip to the switch, everything seemed good. Solid connections, no shorts, I was ready to go for the live test. Seated my chip on the LPC, connected D0 and gave it a boot. LEDs lit up properly (except for LAN/HDD that I had not soldered at the time) and all switches worked as designed!

Success! At first I thought the grey ribbon cable was going to be unsightly outside the box, but actually it does tuck away nicely so long as you route the cable properly to keep twists to a minimum or completely out of the mix. One nice feature of this cable is that when installing it under the controller ports it is flat... no question. I've felt the normal wires get compressed under the ports if you don't keep them from crossing as you seat the ports. No chance of that here. Unfortunately I don't have any pictures of the finished install at this time, I'll try and grab some later.

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So, what about the HDD/LAN LEDs? Well apparently I didn't do enough research into the circuit. I was under the impression that the pins you attach to under the motherboard drive the LEDs. The way I designed the cable I just have the two motherboard points going out to the chip, driving the LEDs and then going to ground. In practice I've found this is pretty much *exactly the opposite* of what I wanted to do. My end result is that the LEDs are lit when there is no activity on the LAN or HDD, and flicker/go out when there is. I also thought they looked dim and found that when they are lit they only get about 3.3v, the other LEDs get 5v. OK, so what am I missing?

The answer turned out to be more diodes! Diodes in the form of bi-polar transistors that is. Luckily for me the education on this is as close by as my parent's place. My dad has been in electrical engineering for probably 40 years now, to him this stuff is child's play. If I remember correctly I need to get a PNP transistor, hook the base leg up to the LAN or HDD pin on the motherboard with a large resistor (~10K Ohm) in series, hook the collector leg up to a voltage source (going with 5v here for the proper intensity) and then attach the emitter leg to the wire that goes to the LED. What will happen is that when the base is high (has sufficient voltage) there will be no current allowed to pass from the collector to the emitter. If the base goes low it will draw current from the collector and likewise let current to drive the LED go out the emitter. Sort of like if you consider the voltage from the LAN/HDD point as being someone holding a door closed. If they are pushing on the door, nothing gets through. If they slack off then whatever is on the opposite side can pass. I probably still have this screwed up but I think I'm somewhat correct. What this translates into is that when there is power from the LAN/HDD point (what is currently lighting the LED for me) there will be no power sent to the LED. If there is no power on the LAN/HDD port (currently lets the LED go dark) there will be power sent to the LED and it will light up. The exact reversal of what I am seeing now, plus it will also switch the proper voltage! If you look at where the HDD/LAN cables connect to the 2.6 chips and follow the traces you will see all these components (in tidy little SMT packages) right there on the chip.

Now the damn thing is that I need to get a 5v source. This will mean more plugs so that I can still separate the motherboard and cables from everything else without having to unsolder anything. If I had run that 8th wire (pin 6) back towards the chip I could have tapped in right there. no more plugs, just some extra bits taped or shrink wrapped to the cable. I'll probably do that the next time I build one of these, but for now I'm just going to deal with another pair of plugs. Don't know when I'm going to have time to do this but it's the next project in this series.

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Thanks, it's been an interesting project. I'll post more as I do more work on it, especially details on the transistor setup for the LAN/HDD LEDs. Still have some experimentation and learning to do here. I should probably drop a link to this in the hardware mod forums.

While the cable for my Xbox is pretty much final I will probably be building another one to hopefully put in my sister's box when she visits this winter. I've got a 2.3B Lite that had a blown out trace due to a short, but I've since repaired it. So long as it will be compatible with her box (I'm pretty sure she picked up a refurb system in Dec. 2003, so it should be) I'll be hooking her up with that 2.3B Lite, a 2.6CE switch bank and fully working LEDs on it. I'm seeing it as a bit of a repayment for all the torment I gave her as we were growing up. :D I'll be doing a full 8-conductor cable so that I'll have the 5v sent right back to where the LAN/HDD leads connect and can then wire that up with transistors near the chip, sending the proper voltage back through the cable to the LEDs on the switch bank. Again, I'll update as I continue my projects.

The best thing about this is that someone said there was no way to put a 2.6 switch on a 2.3 chip. I've shown you can do this (although lacking HDD/LAN indication) without any mods whatsoever. What I've spent on the rest of the project for parts and tools probably could have gotten me an X3 and the under-the-ports snap on switch bank, but I like tinkering around with stuff like this. It's a hobby, so it is supposed to be a money burner, right?

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so lets say for example that you lost/broke your 2.6CE control panel, so right now you're waiting for a replacement which will take 2 weeks. You WANT to have SOME functionality from your box, but are frustrated because well.. you have no way of turning the chip on.

So how would you wire (temporarily) a swtich to enable bank2 and turn on the mod?
 

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so lets say for example that you lost/broke your 2.6CE control panel, so right now you're waiting for a replacement which will take 2 weeks. You WANT to have SOME functionality from your box, but are frustrated because well.. you have no way of turning the chip on.

So how would you wire (temporarily) a swtich to enable bank2 and turn on the mod?
I just did that last night so you might wanna try this...connect wires #2 & #4 to enable bank 2 and to enable bank 1 connect wire #1 as well, you need to connect wire #5 & #6 together too but separately...BTW, if you want to enable flash protect after flashing, just add wire #3 to #2 & #4. Does it make sense to you? (I hope:))

Thanks to Big_Whoopin for his diagram! mine is up and running...
 

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ok sounds easy enough a couple of questions thou:
1. When you mean connect them, you mean connect them toghether correct?
2. By connecting #2 and #4, does that also automatically enable the mod? or is there a separate connection that will turn the mod ON?
3. When looking at the plug (on the control panel side) from which direction do you start counting the pins? Left or right? I dont wanna connect the wrong wires, just cause i counted from the wrong end :p


 

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1. When you mean connect them, you mean connect them toghether correct?
Yes! just connect them together...

2. By connecting #2 and #4, does that also automatically enable the mod? or is there a separate connection that will turn the mod ON?
No, you need to connect #5 to #6 because that's your 5v supply for the chip...basically it's like this :
#2 & #4 together;
#5 & #6 together...
Note: this setting is Bank 2, flash protect off

if you want to change to bank 1, connect #1 to #2 & #4
after flashing you can connect #3 to #2 & #4 if you want to flash protect
3. When looking at the plug (on the control panel side) from which direction do you start counting the pins? Left or right? I dont wanna connect the wrong wires, just cause i counted from the wrong end :p
Start counting from your left...

Hope this helps! :)
 

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BTW, I hope Whoopin' wouldn't mind me using his Schematic, LOL! just wanna say thanks to Whoopin' for saving me a chip which i thought is already a paper weight...anybody has a spare 2.6ce switch and wire harness? I still like seeing my box with those fancy LED's...well, who the H33L cares, it's working anyway!
 

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so ONE more time,juuuuust to make sure. THIS is the right order of the pins correct? (this plug would be the one plugged into the front control panel)
 

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had some free time, i made myself a GHETTOTASTIC switch out of the existing cable (chip to control panel) and an old copper clad board i had. I used simple jumpers to switch between banks 1 and 2 and turn the chip on and off :)

Here it is. Please remember that this is a VERY crude replacement, and its no where near as pretty as the xecuter one, but it WORKS :D

Barebones
Chip ON, Bank 2
Chip ON, Bank 1

what you think :D
 

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Wow... can't get to the boards for a few days or so and suddenly there is a flurry of activity in my thread. :D

Anyway, to those that are looking to get a new replacement switch assembly first check the Team Xecuter recommended sellers list. Even if they don't have it listed on their web sites if you call or email them they may be able to sell you one. Outside of the recommended sellers, I think themodchip.com had them about a week ago (maybe longer) somewhere around $6 a pop.

I still hope to pull the backing off another X2.6CE switch and do up some pictures of where the different points are to wire to if running custom remote switches. Islander, I think this is what you had done? (someone in the forums did...) I also need to get cracking on the cable for my sister, along with sorting out the transistor bit and getting that built.

Islander, you're free to use the schematic but optimally I would recommend that you link to the beginning of the thread. (one problem here tho is that the board is members only, so a bit of a pain if you're using it outside of the forums and trying to point people to it.) The thread will have the most info and should always have the current revision of the schematic. I think it's pretty much final now but the revision date should clue you in on the fact that I have changed it up a couple times.

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Whoopin',

I didn't realize the importance of your schematic til my switch actually caused me problems...it was a big help for me in identifying the correct wires to use. I think I haven't thanked you enough so i'd like to take this opportunity to do so...Thanks! you're the man...
 

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I'm a geek that likes to take things apart and see what makes them tick. Most of the time I can even get them back together again. :D

I had started this with my X2.3 Lite switch when i wanted to relocate some of the components. After installing a X2.6 for a friend I liked the look of the new switch and wanted to drop one of those on my X2.3. From my work with the X2.3 I could see that the switch bank was pretty straightforward and assumed the same for the X2.6. When I later ordered up a couple X2.6CEs to install on more friends' boxes I asked the reseller for an extra switch. They hooked me up and when I got it I started mapping out the traces. Follow my link to the X2.3 switch bank and you'll see that the circuits for the D0, Bank 1/2 and flash protect are essentially the same. New to the x2.6 was the 5v output back to the chip, the status LEDs,the HDD/LAN indicators and a switch to turn 'em all off. With the exception of the LAN/HDD LEDs and the LED on/off switch there are really no big changes. The second pole of the DPDT switches is now used to turn on/off some LEDs and the return 5v is thrown in. Made it pretty easy for me to translate over, and I figured other people could make use of it if they wanted to relocate switches or LEDs. At the time I didn't realize there was a frequent issue with dodgy switches, using my research for this troubleshooting was a bonus on the side. I'm glad it's been able to help a number of people out tho.

-Whoopin'