Zephyr glitched and flashed - now nothing

[metaldog99]

I followed the guide at this link https://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75945 - all went reasonable well:

1. With Nand-x, I was able to read several nand dumps and all compared with no errors, no bad blocks.
2. Updated the coolrunner with glitch file, wrote .ecc
3. It took a while, but I was able to boot the box to Xell Reloaded, and obtained my CPU key. The box would not consistently glitch - I would have to power off by power switch and power on by eject button usually 4 or 5 times in order to get the box to glitch and get to the Xell Reloaded screen.
4. I generated the new .bin, and followed the instructions to write to the box using the USB drive, with rawflash v3 (xenon.elf) and my newly generated nandflash.bin on the USB. All seemed to go well.

After all of this, the box is not booting up to anything. Coolrunner no longer flashes green (just steady red) with switches in "phat" and "nor" positions. Box powers up with fans running, but nothing on the screen, no video signal. It does not appear to boot to anything no matter what method is used to power it up.

I reconnected the Nand-x to attempt to flash it back to the original with one of my original nand dumps, but now the nand-x is not being seen by nandpro (v3). It is seen as a device in device manager (reinstalled the drivers), but it does not respond to any commands from nandpro - all I get it "Looking for usb interface. Cannot continue" no matter what I try.

I have both another coolrunner and a Nand-x on order - I'm assuming that the Nand-x has become defective in some way, as well as maybe the coolrunner as well.

I've checked all solder connections, and they all seem ok.

While the box was booted to Xell Reloaded, I was able to browse to the webserver page and downloaded 1) Raw Flash, 2) Key Vault and 3) Fuses. I also captured that page, which had the CPU Key and DVD Key.

I hope with all I have been able to save that I can somehow bring this Xbox back to life.


Anyone who can help, it would certainly be appreciated! As I said, everything was indicating success up until the very end, so I'm stumped on what else to try.

I have pics, but haven't had time to download them to my PC in order to upload.

 

[xxWreaperxx]

First of all, upload the pics so we can see the condition of the soldering.

If youre nand-x is not being detected, then theres somethign wrong with your soldering most likely.(The nand-x section anyway)

If you can get that working, what you need to do is flash the original nand back onto the xbox and see if it boots again. Your xbox should boot with the original nand even if the coolrunner has been soldered to the board. (Not sure if that means your coolrunner is soldered properly) I'd go through and check all the points again and make sure they are secured.


EDIT: Try power cycling the xbox and see if the nand-x is detected.

 

[metaldog99]

OK, here are photos of the soldering (not the best, but there is some detail)

 

[metaldog99]

Last wire, plus screenshots of Xell Reloaded and rawflash.

 

[Demitrios]

You might want to chill out on the flux, personally i get fluxed solder, but if you use it there's no need to drown it.

Last thing you need it to have to clear it all up cause there's a tiny piece of solder linking some points together .

 

[xxWreaperxx]

Check that blue wire. From the pic, it didn't look like that great of a connection. And did you have trouble soldering any point? Anything lifted?


Clean the junk off of the coolrunner too. Btw, is that flux? And is it dry or wet?

 

[RROD!]

Even with flux core solder you will still need to use flux on the motherboard but yes you need to clean the board get some isopropyl and clean up when you finished also if you could give the board a clean and get some closer pics of the points please
One other thing to try first I just seen this post maybe this is worth a try http://www.team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?p=496669 sounds very close to the same as your problem

 

[Mickey3177]

Just wondering why you still have the Jtag QSB still installed, I would take it out.

 

[metaldog99]

Just wondering why you still have the Jtag QSB still installed, I would take it out.

Removed it. Same results.

 

[Xmarksthesh0t]

I think you guys should stop doing zephrys as they are a pain in the backside. ALOT of problems even with pro people so i guess all zephrys shouldnt be RGh but thats my 2 cents.

 

[mafia 5k]

how are you running your wires? i have a zephyr here that only boots if i wait 30-60 seconds in between boots .
ive tried everything to combat it but it seems nothing will change the boot time. i ended up getting better results with my wires closer together coming from the coolrunner then seperating once under the board.


have you taken a peek at the wiring diagram there is a area to stay away from where the power regs. are on the bottom side of the board near the blue wire.

 

[metaldog99]

Even with flux core solder you will still need to use flux on the motherboard but yes you need to clean the board get some isopropyl and clean up when you finished also if you could give the board a clean and get some closer pics of the points please
One other thing to try first I just seen this post maybe this is worth a try http://www.team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?p=496669 sounds very close to the same as your problem

I'll give the board a cleaning tonight when I get home, and try to take some better pics.

I read the other thread, and everything checked out in 360 Tool as mentioned. I'm not sure which value of LDV to use - the number of f's is 13, when I load the nandflash.bin into 360, it reports LDV of 13, but it has no value in the fields for [CF] Patch 1 and [CG] Patch 1.

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how are you running your wires? i have a zephyr here that only boots if i wait 30-60 seconds in between boots .
ive tried everything to combat it but it seems nothing will change the boot time. i ended up getting better results with my wires closer together coming from the coolrunner then seperating once under the board.


have you taken a peek at the wiring diagram there is a area to stay away from where the power regs. are on the bottom side of the board near the blue wire.

I ran the wires on the bottom side separated, very close to the pic which indicates the "stay out" zone.

 

[metaldog99]

I cleaned up the board, reflowed the solder for a couple of the solder points, then tried to do a nand read with nandpro, and still get "looking for usb interface device .. Cannot continue".

So I tried to use the Nand-x to rewrite the glitch code back to the CR, and it reported success (the green led went solid during the write). I then switched it to Nor mode, and powered up using eject button. Now, at least the CR is doing something as I get the flashing green LED for a period of time (every six seconds). Nothing on the screen however.

And still no response to either read or write to nand using the Nand-x.

 

[djcenox]

I gave up on a zephyr. I got one time xell booted. Then restarded with usb for rawflash but never booted again... Flashed on ggbuild... nothing too. After some day i reflashed ecc image and after a loong time xell booted again but 1 time only. I think they are only junk.

 

[Adam86]

I have 2 Zephyrs, one glitches perfectly, the other one doesnt, sometimes it will glitch, but freeze on booting Xell so cant get the CPU Key off it - ended up removing the Coolrunner from this board.

On the one which I do have working perfectly, maybe try the following as this seems to do the trick for me:

Use the alternative STBY_CLK point, FT2R2 I think, double check in the alternative points guide. I used the extra long slim blue wire for this but snipped it down so it was just long enough.

Here is a picture of my Zephyr board wiring, try doing the same and see if you have any more luck.

 

[metaldog99]

I have 2 Zephyrs, one glitches perfectly, the other one doesnt, sometimes it will glitch, but freeze on booting Xell so cant get the CPU Key off it - ended up removing the Coolrunner from this board.

On the one which I do have working perfectly, maybe try the following as this seems to do the trick for me:

Use the alternative STBY_CLK point, FT2R2 I think, double check in the alternative points guide. I used the extra long slim blue wire for this but snipped it down so it was just long enough.

Here is a picture of my Zephyr board wiring, try doing the same and see if you have any more luck.

My wiring is pretty close to what's shown in your pic, except the blue wire on mine crosses over the components below it, as yours is wrapped around those points. That's something else I can try - once I get my new Nand-x. I think I shorted something out during troubleshooting, as I had the board removed from the case, and something shorted to the chassis - all the lights went out on the board, and I got a "USB drawing too much power" message. Since that happened, the Nand-x is not able to read or write any nand data, however it is able to write to the coolrunner using the xsvf mode.

Does anyone know how to troubleshoot the Nand-x to tell if it's fully operational? I have a new one on the way, but it won't be here until next week.

As always, thanks to all - the help and advice is much appreciated!

 

[natedogg2012]

I was having all kinds of trouble working on 3 different zephyr boards. I was able to get them to boot XELL without issues every time, but as soon as I flashed the freeboot image on them (using jtag tool and rawflash) I would get no green light flashing on the coolrunner and obviously, they weren't booting into freeboot.

I resolved this issue by using Multibuilder to create the freeboot image, and selecting option #2 when creating my image for the alternate CB version (jtag tool doesn't give you the option to do this). After doing this, all 3 of my zephyr consoles are booting perfectly (within 3-10 seconds) after power on.

Hope this helps some others who were in the same boat I was!

 

[rs250]

I was having all kinds of trouble working on 3 different zephyr boards. I was able to get them to boot XELL without issues every time, but as soon as I flashed the freeboot image on them (using jtag tool and rawflash) I would get no green light flashing on the coolrunner and obviously, they weren't booting into freeboot.

I resolved this issue by using Multibuilder to create the freeboot image, and selecting option #2 when creating my image for the alternate CB version (jtag tool doesn't give you the option to do this). After doing this, all 3 of my zephyr consoles are booting perfectly (within 3-10 seconds) after power on.

Hope this helps some others who were in the same boat I was!

Which version of Miltibuilder did you use? I am not sure what you mean by option 2... Do you mean to create the JTAG image rather than the RGH (or Glitch) image.

Thank you for the heads up. I am having very similar issues. Will boot Xell pretty much without issue but getting it to load dash is a hit or miss proposition.

I think I figure out you were using 0.3 Multibulider. It is the last version to have options for RGH. Cheers

 

[demonic69]

I think you guys should stop doing zephrys as they are a pain in the backside. ALOT of problems even with pro people so i guess all zephrys shouldnt be RGh but thats my 2 cents.

That's nice and defeatest of you! You can stay away from them all you like mate, some of us aren't scared of a challenge (read Stubborn/too tight to buy another console )

I used the lastest multibuilder and chose the image without patches, works fine on mine now. Metaldog, have you checked the continuity from the bottom of your board to the pins on the QSBs?
A crap image seems to cause the coolrunner to fail to glitch, happened to me several times until I used multibuilder and option without patches. I couldn't get a decent image from JTAG tool at all

 

[natedogg2012]

Which version of Miltibuilder did you use? I am not sure what you mean by option 2... Do you mean to create the JTAG image rather than the RGH (or Glitch) image.

Thank you for the heads up. I am having very similar issues. Will boot Xell pretty much without issue but getting it to load dash is a hit or miss proposition.

I think I figure out you were using 0.3 Multibulider. It is the last version to have options for RGH. Cheers

I used Multibuilder V 0.4. By option 2, I am referring to the option to use the "Glitch Hack Image 13604 with CB = 4578". This would be for a Reset Glitch, not a jtag image.