Zephyr was booting, now it wont.

JohnsonMighty

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Yesterday I installed a coolrunner on a Zephyr, it booted perfectly a few times, then I put the case back on and now it won't boot the dash, boots Xell just fine.

When it was running I put xexmenu and FSD to ftp a couple of his games over and the avatar fix. Now the CR blinks 1 or 2 times then stops and doesn't boot. I got it to boot once by starting in slim, the after a few seconds switching into phat. I can't seem to figure out the problem considering it was working just fine. the freeboot image was flashed using rawflash.

I even reflashed the same fb image to see if the avatar fix screwed with it. I'm going to go over the solder points again and re solder them.

can't provide pictures as my only camera is my phone and it's sh*t.
 

CoDeRs

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Crap photos are better than no photo's!!...

Remove the system from the case and recheck all of your wires and solder joints. I made a mistake on my phat and it was just me being lazy and not paying attention to what I was doing. Everything installed and booted fine but when it installed the mobo into the case, I crushed one of the wires between the mobo and standoff of the case. Completely separated the wire inside the insulation.
 

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Flash the xbox back to stock nand. Then try with the cr on "prg" it should boot just fine as its no longer glitched. Then try stock nand with cr on "nor". It should glitch into stock nand. Let me know what happens in each case. It will help diagnose the problem
 

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I don't think is a bad solder job if the OP can boot into Xell. That means that it is glitching. I would start by looking into wire routing.
 
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CoDeRs

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I don't think is a bad solder job if the OP can boot into Xell. That means that it is glitching. I would start by looking into wire routing.
I didn't nessisarly mean solder joints. He said it only glitches 1-2 times then stops. If he pinched a wire it might only be holding by a strand or 2 and the vibrations for the fans / hard drive spinning up, cdrom seeking he may cause the wire to become open...

I know its a long shot..
 

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I didn't nessisarly mean solder joints. He said it only glitches 1-2 times then stops. If he pinched a wire it might only be holding by a strand or 2 and the vibrations for the fans / hard drive spinning up, cdrom seeking he may cause the wire to become open...

I know its a long shot..
Ya, you never now in this stuff but my main point was, if he can get into Xell every time that would tend to point in another direction besides soldering with my way of thinking. :p
 
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I don't want to upset anybody with this, but I have a feeling in may be the CR...

I've tried this exact coolrunner in 3 xboxs and non would boot. I thought that it may have just been me, but I don't know. Don't get me wrong, I love TX and have about 10 other CR's sitting in front of me, so I'm not trying to knock TX one bit.

Another update is that I got it to boot once. Started in slim, turned off and switched to phat, then booted after one flash. going to flash stock in a minute, just thought that I should update you guys. Also I went over every point and redid them and not a single problem there.
 

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OK, silly question. When you put them in other boxes, I can only assume that you reprogrammed the CR with the correct file? And, do these same boxes work with another CR?
 

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I don't want to upset anybody with this, but I have a feeling in may be the CR...

I've tried this exact coolrunner in 3 xboxs and non would boot. I thought that it may have just been me, but I don't know. Don't get me wrong, I love TX and have about 10 other CR's sitting in front of me, so I'm not trying to knock TX one bit.

Another update is that I got it to boot once. Started in slim, turned off and switched to phat, then booted after one flash. going to flash stock in a minute, just thought that I should update you guys. Also I went over every point and redid them and not a single problem there.
Remember that Zephyrs do not glitch consistently.

I've not had a single issue with a CR yet and I've installed nearly 50 now.
 

JohnsonMighty

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Of course I reprogrammed it:)

And I didn't try the other xboxs with a different coolrunner.

Flashed stock back, booted, DOES NOT glitch into stock dash. So there has to be a problem with the CR, right?

also weird thing, I just downgraded my dash from fb 14699 into stock prekinect dash. Don't know if that means anything. lol.
 

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Flashed stock back, booted, DOES NOT glitch into stock dash. So there has to be a problem with the CR, right?
Nope - just means that it's taking longer to glitch than expected.

also weird thing, I just downgraded my dash from fb 14699 into stock prekinect dash. Don't know if that means anything. lol.
What does this mean?

Flash your ECC Xell back and keep trying to boot to XeLL. If it works, it's definitely not the CR, soldering or wiring.
 

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It's just that it booted at least 4 times in a row instantly at first. Boots Xell instantly every time to. And my main RGH/Jtag for myself is a Zephyr and I've never had a problem with it booting and such. I'm going to replace the CR with a new rev.B one here in a few minutes and then I'll report back.

AT Martin, I'll do that in a minute, have to resolder the nand-x cables.

The FB image was 14699, the newest dash. and the Stock firmware I just flashed was from before kinect dash was out. So the old NxE.

doesn't really mean much, just thought that it was neat that I "downgraded" the dash.
 
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It's just that it booted at least 4 times in a row instantly at first. Boots Xell instantly every time to
So it's not the CR then!!!!

Understand that the same code used to boot XeLL is also used for RGH.
 

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If you can't boot to a into with a stock nand loaded then that points to wire routing. Pull the board out of the chassis and let the wire hang free and boot it (but be very careful). You should be able to find a place for them that will allow the system to boot. Stay as far from the coils as the wire lengths will let you.
 

JohnsonMighty

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At Martin, it just doesn't make sense, gahhhhh.

At Krafter, I did that, still no boot. and if it boots Xell fine it should boot FB fine. I made the image in Multibuilder and it was completely working. When I flash the ecc file back and everything so on, if it doesn't boot I will attempt to install a new CR.

Thank you for your help so far guys.
 

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I've had the same issue with my zephyr and started from scratch with the programming. Reflash your ECC file and then glitch it and then rebuild your image
 

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Boots Xell almost instantly every time. By almost instantly it sometimes hit a second green led flash. booted it up about 15 times no problem. going to make the fb image now and will post back.
 

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Boots Xell almost instantly every time. By almost instantly it sometimes hit a second green led flash. booted it up about 15 times no problem. going to make the fb image now and will post back.
Use Multi_Builder.

It goes without saying that if you have a problem with it not booting, you should be making sure your LDV is right. (link in my sig).